I scored mine for something like....$15. A buddy of mine picked one up for $20, marked it up for me. I gave him a retailer incentive (that I paid cover price for) of a Dreamwave TF book (back when that was a hot thing) and $12. Yeah. We ripped each other off.The 20th MP Optimus at some stores in the USA sold for around $60. The 25th MP Optimus depending on the USA store you bought it from cost anywhere from $69.99 to $80. Both the 20th & 25th MP Optimus toys were major shelf warmers,Most USA stores did mass clearance sales on both toys near the 50% price. Fans had plenty of chances to score a mass-clearance MP Optimus.
Exactly. Because Optimus matters.When BW was airing, and The Agenda happened, nothing pissed me off more than the fact that I didn't have an Optimus Prime for BW Megs to kill.
You clearly have lower standards than I do if you think that Rattrap has ever had a good toy.And what about the argument for making newer toys based on guys that already have perfectly fine toys?
They want good/modern toys of those characters. But, again (as stated above) different standards....That’s what I’m complaining about here: These people don’t like Transformers Toys, they like Generation 1 and Optimus Prime and Jazz.
It could do with better proportions. But, the toy itself is pretty good.What on earth is wrong with the original Armada Red Alert? That whole trilogy made a career out of toys that looked just like the show, and Red Alert didn’t even have a lot of the problems other Armada figures had (namely, crippled articulation).
I want modern hands. And, again, we have never gotten a good G1 style Mirage. I want a Mirage that looks like Mirage did in early issues of the comic or the cartoon or "All Hail Megatron". (And, no, the 2006 figure does not look anything like G1 style Mirage.)Again, what the heck is wrong with Classics Mirage? ‘Showing its age’ nothing, Hasbro’s ability to sculpt robots has not appreciably improved since that figure came out, you can stick it next to Universe Hound and RTS Perceptor and Generations Trailcutter and it looks fine. There’s hardly any room for improvement in articulation. Would you seriously pay another $12 and change just to get a Mirage with wrist swivels?
I do not need toys to enjoy the comics. But, damn, if Hasbro is making TF figures anyway, they may as well make toys that are like the comics.
All 4 have different head sculpts and silhouettes. And, all 4 did important stuff at various points. Yeah, for some strange reason, I would rather have toys of those guys.And how interesting are they as toys compared to each other?
Jazz- White car who turns into a robot with a car hood for a chest
Mirage- White car who turns into a robot with a car hood for a chest
Wheeljack- White car who turns into a robot with a car hood for a chest
Prowl- White car who turns into a robot with a car hood for a chest
I am not playing with my toys. I put them on a shelf because "this is a toy of a guy who did something cool in a comic that I read".
The botched head sculpt misses the point of Jazz. (Maybe if it looked like the IDW comics character, that sculpt would have worked. But, it does not work as it was made.)God, see this? I love how as soon as a figure falls short of perfection it immediately plummets to ‘piss poor’ in your eyes. Subjective issues like the door-wings and arm-paint aside, Jazz’s biggest problems are a chest that doesn’t lock down and a somewhat lacking face-sculpt. It’s hardly perfect, but it’s not like it lacks major articulation, or falls apart in your hands or anything.
And, the new characters in BW did stuff. Who cares about Injector? Fucking nobody.As I’ve pointed out before though: Beast Wars shits all over the argument that you need to keep making the same guys, the same way to achieve success. Beast Wars was a completely reinvented Transformers line with almost nothing but new characters, and it succeeded spectacularly. Go back to that, do that again!
Intellectual property and media have always been a huge part of "Transformers". Again, if the media and IP did not matter, we would be sitting here talking about "Go-Bots", not "Transformers".Transformers didn't used to be all about characters, that's why guys didn't even GET more than one toy until stuff like Pretenders and Action Masters rolled around. It used to be about ideas and toy concepts and really innovating and making cool new stuff. Switching over to being all about characters a select group of old people remember from a mediocre cartoon and a slightly better comic series has absolutely wrecked the brand, in my eyes.
"GI Joe" also fell out of step with the times 20+ years ago. TF has managed to stay current with its IP and media.There’s also the fact that how TF is handled by Hasbro now is largely how they handled GI Joe throughout its lifespan. And look at where GI Joe is now…