Universe2.0/Generations Review Thread

[Dominic]

Yeah, but your earlier post implied you thought I was talking about ClaSlaught's chest homaging the sticker on the chestplate itself, which it isn't.

I thought the plate bit (the thing that stows in Greejeeber/whatsisface on Ruination) had a sticker on it?

Dom

[onslaught86]

It does, on the original, but that's not what ClaSlaught's chest is shaped like. ClaSlaught's two windows and tapering chest plate are a direct nod to the Dery-ised animation model/comic control art, as seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onslaught_(Transformers)

The ribbing on the chestplate is a nod to one of the original toy's torso stickers, which featured similar detailing.

[138 Scourge]

Whassis "stores on Greenjeeper" stuff? The chestplate deal? I thought that just stowed on Ruination's gun thingy.

I still love that it does that. The "combining weapons" retool was such a beautiful thing.

[onslaught86]

Yeah, Mega-Octane's chestplate most certainly does NOT store on Rollbar, since it has additional supports moulded in to make it fit better in his square chest hole. Dolrailer's, however, lacks this moulding, and will fit in Greenjeeper. It looks much better as a targeting panel on the back of Dangar's dual cannons, though. And yes, definitely epic awesome retool.

[Dominic]

Octane's chest-plate fits into Rollbar as well. When Rollbar is in leg mode, the chest-plate pegs loosely into the (flipped) front of the jeep, and is held in place by Octane's leg clipping over Rollbar's head to form Ruination's leg.

Dom

[onslaught86]

Hmm, s'pose it works, since most of the storage is improvised anyway. I assumed you meant in the gun-mount on the back of the jeep, having seen that done before.

[JediTricks]

Let me start by saying I think Galvatron is pretty nifty in both modes, I like the colors and love the transformation, mine doesn't come apart, and the backpack is kind of a mess so I reverse the treads to allow right arm rotation. The only thing I really don't care for (despite being too small for the character) is the simplistic face sculpt.

But, I am not buying toys for kids to enjoy and learn from them. I buy toys to enjoy them myself. (Yes, I am being selfish here. So sue me.) I appreciate parts that integrate into both modes gracefully. (I would agree about Ramulus here, but think other large parts can gracefully integrate.) If me getting a gracefully engineering toy with integrating parts deprives little Jimmy of a valuable life lesson, then I guess little Jimmy needs to get his learnin' done some other way.

Then your argument is bunk. You are careful, you are cautious, you can put things away and remember where they are later. I have SW accessories from 13 years ago in ziploc baggies that I still am entirely aware of their locations. The rifle with CD Scattorshot is fine and dandy, you haven't made a solid argument - it's a good loose accessory, and it pegs onto the figure in BOTH modes, and if you don't like it you can put it the hell away. Why should we accommodate your personal issues when they don't even hold up?

I was careful with my toys as a kid, that is why transforming my Ramjet to plane mode was such an ordeal. I had to carefully put the fists some place that I would not lose them. Ditto for parts like Soundwave's guns (or at least missiles) or Bluesteak's weapons. Yeah, Prime's trailer held some of this stuff. But, if I wanted to transform that........

Bags, toyboxes, shit like that.

I never thought of that. Has this happened to anyone we know?


-thinks Megatron is just askin' for it.

First off, you can edit your posts, no need to post twice, but 'ats ok.

Now, the answer is no, it's never happened to anybody. What is with you thinking there's a good reason to put your johnson into the try-me hole on the packaging of toys? Why are you trying to get Megatron to suck you off, is it that moving mouth on the figure?

I've got mine right here. The only really obvious Flat Areas I see are all either vehicle kibble like his shoulders or legs, or his shoulders, which...yeah, are pretty much bare except for the rivet details and the line through the middle. But this is *okay* because 'that's what Onslaught looks like.' He's clearly homaging certain aspects of his design like the shoulders, the back of his legs, the back cannons, and his chestplate sorta which I'll get to in a sec.

Again, you're talking about an homage to the bad parts of the original, the plain nature of the bot mode. The shoulders, the sides around the front of the torso, the upper legs, and the "boots" are all pretty plain and flat. Oh, and the HEAD.

My argument is that both Onslaughts have a bunch of wheels and they stick out the back of his legs in both incarnations.

A lot of G1 Onslaught's wheels are on the back of his torso. Anyway, just having wheels on the legs isn't really that similar, could list off dozens of figures with that who aren't homages to Onslaught.

Awesome sentence.

Intentional internettery.

The rear of the truck on ClaPrime, or Prime's Design In General?

Classics Prime, with the toes sticking out the back and then those fold-over panels taking up much of what would be the rotation space.

And the body design bit is nonsense because G1 Prime is one of my favourite toy designs ever. I still draw Prime with bits missing from his forearms.

That doesn't mean it's better just because it's your favorite. It's still a box with legs and arms and a head.

Refuted earlier.

Not really.

I've yet to see you point out any specific areas where he's undetailed.

And now you have.

[Dominic]

Hmm, s'pose it works, since most of the storage is improvised anyway. I assumed you meant in the gun-mount on the back of the jeep, having seen that done before.

I am not talking about the gun mount, but where the head goes in vehicle mode. Take Greebar or Rolljeeber, or whatever his name is, and transform him into a robot. Now, transform him to leg mod. (Push the arms in and smoosh the legs up and stick him on the foot stand.) The front of the jeep will still be hanging, folded, on the "back" of the soon-to-be leg. At this point, drop the chest-plate's peg into the hole that the robot's head would go into for the vehicle mode. Now, connect the leg to the rest of the body. The chest-plate will be secure that way.

Then your argument is bunk. You are careful, you are cautious, you can put things away and remember where they are later. I have SW accessories from 13 years ago in ziploc baggies that I still am entirely aware of their locations. The rifle with CD Scattorshot is fine and dandy, you haven't made a solid argument - it's a good loose accessory, and it pegs onto the figure in BOTH modes, and if you don't like it you can put it the hell away. Why should we accommodate your personal issues when they don't even hold up?

Keep in mind, my being careful and cautious was still annoying when I was a kid. Yeah, I mostly kept track of the extra bits on my TFs. But, it was annoying. (C'mon, you must have wasted time looking for an odd missile or fist in the toybox. it took forever.) And, there is something to be said for parts that integrate gracefully into both modes. (If you really want, I will buy Ratchet on the way home today and fiddle with it. If I am sold on the toy, I will retract some of this arguement.)

First off, you can edit your posts, no need to post twice, but 'ats ok.

Now, the answer is no, it's never happened to anybody. What is with you thinking there's a good reason to put your johnson into the try-me hole on the packaging of toys? Why are you trying to get Megatron to suck you off, is it that moving mouth on the figure?

Sorry about the editiing. Typing has been more difficult of late. (Stiff hands and bad motor control have worsened of late.)

I do not want Megatron to suck me off. Nor to I want to spooge his man-bot moobies. But, I cannot shake the image of somebody in a stock room doing things to leader class toys, like "skeet-shooting". And, the image of filthy handed people sticking their schmutz encrusted fingers in those holes and filthing up the toys also irks me.

Dom
-will be really torn if they release a Menasor recolor in one of those boxes.

[onslaught86]

Let me start by saying I think Galvatron is pretty nifty in both modes, I like the colors and love the transformation, mine doesn't come apart, and the backpack is kind of a mess so I reverse the treads to allow right arm rotation. The only thing I really don't care for (despite being too small for the character) is the simplistic face sculpt.

Bwuh? What's simplistic about the headsculpt? It's Galvatron's head, they gave him a stern expression and threw in some indented detail and ribbing on the sides, it's not a big rounded dome or anything, or a cylinder like the original's. What other detail would you have preferred be there without it compromising the Galvatronniness of the design?

[Prime_Wreck]

The only thing I hate about Galvatron is his size. You'd think they would have made him a voyager at least, since he's suppose to be a leader that brought all these factions of Decepticons together per his bio. Other than that, I havn't had any of the problems with him, that I've read about others having.