Deja Vu,I've figured out MP-12 Lambors robot height.

[Tigermegatron]

Deja Vu.

I've figured out Takara MP-12 Lambor Robot height is & it is under 7 & 3/4 inches tall & $27 USA Ultra sized.

Figuring out MP-12 Lambor's robot height & size class was rather easy to do. Because Takara & Igear have both used the same exact MP-01 Convoy next to a newer figure comparision pic for years. apparently Takara's favorite comparision pic to show customers the size of newer MP TF toys is MP-01 Convoy.

I own & have measured Igear faith leader,it's 7 & 3/4 inch tall in robot mode from head to toe. as you can see in the comparisions pic Faith leader's robot head comes to the half way point in mp-01 convoy's abdomen silver chest grill,exactly like mp-12 lambor does.
http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/at ... mp107.jpg/

Looking at the newer comparisions pics with mp-01 comvoy next to MP-12 Lambor. Reveals that MP-12 Lambor's robot head comes up to the same half way point in mp-01 convoy abdomen silver chest grill like faith leader who is 7 & 3/4 tall in robot mode.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ipe/24895/

MP-09 Rodimus Convoy is 9.5 inches tall in robot mode & he's leader sized. here is a MP-09 Rodimus Convoy next to MP 01 Convoy sleep mode color variation. as one can plainly see. MP-09 Rodimus convoy's robot head is way over the mp-01 convoy abdomen silver chest grill. MP Rodimus's head reaches a bit into MP-01 Convoys upper chest/vechicle duo windows
http://www.collecticon.org/collecticon_ ... arison.jpg

Personally,I am glad & relieved MP-12 Lambor is not 9.5 inch leader sized. because I kinda want some decent comparisions scale with these MP TF toys. MP-12 Lambor having a under 7 & 3/4 inch tall robot mode puts the toy in the ultra sized class & a 1/2 to 3/4 inch shorter than MP Starscream. MP Starscream is a bit over 8 inches tall in robot mode from head to toe.

I'm gonna have some patience & wait for the inevitable plus cheaper priced Hasbro version in 2013. Because Sideswipe is not even on my top 50 favorite TF characters/toy wants list. Also i've got plenty of new mold sideswipe toys that were created this decade to holkd me over until Hasbro release MP-Sideswipe in stores in 2013.

[BWprowl]

Well, pics of this thing in color with MP-10 are out, and it looks like it'll be about 6 inches tall, 6.5 tops. And it's reportedly gonna cost about eighty bucks. Yowch.

Personally, I really don't get why this thing has to exist when we've already got Universe Sideswipe, who I though most everyone felt was a pretty incredible Sideswipe. I mean, if eighty more dollars is worth it to someone for a Sideswipe who's only slightly taller and a little more G1-accurate, more power to them, I guess? But I just don't get it.

[Tigermegatron]

Well, pics of this thing in color with MP-10 are out, and it looks like it'll be about 6 inches tall, 6.5 tops. And it's reportedly gonna cost about eighty bucks. Yowch.

Personally, I really don't get why this thing has to exist when we've already got Universe Sideswipe, who I though most everyone felt was a pretty incredible Sideswipe. I mean, if eighty more dollars is worth it to someone for a Sideswipe who's only slightly taller and a little more G1-accurate, more power to them, I guess? But I just don't get it.

My mistake,Sorry,When I wrote this thread. I thought MP Sideswipe was standing in front of MP-01 Convoy. Later on,It was pointed out that MP-Lambor was standing in front of MP-10 Convoy. This is why I got the MP Lambor robot height measurments wrong.

My guess is MP-Lambor is Deluxe sized or short voyager sized in robot mode.

[Sparky Prime]

Well, pics of this thing in color with MP-10 are out, and it looks like it'll be about 6 inches tall, 6.5 tops. And it's reportedly gonna cost about eighty bucks. Yowch.

Personally, I really don't get why this thing has to exist when we've already got Universe Sideswipe, who I though most everyone felt was a pretty incredible Sideswipe. I mean, if eighty more dollars is worth it to someone for a Sideswipe who's only slightly taller and a little more G1-accurate, more power to them, I guess? But I just don't get it.

I'm pretty happy with the Alternators version myself which probably is about the same size as this Masterpiece figure. Might not be G1 accurate, but it's a decent enough Sideswipe.

[Tigermegatron]

Well, pics of this thing in color with MP-10 are out, and it looks like it'll be about 6 inches tall, 6.5 tops. And it's reportedly gonna cost about eighty bucks. Yowch.

Personally, I really don't get why this thing has to exist when we've already got Universe Sideswipe, who I though most everyone felt was a pretty incredible Sideswipe. I mean, if eighty more dollars is worth it to someone for a Sideswipe who's only slightly taller and a little more G1-accurate, more power to them, I guess? But I just don't get it.

I'm pretty happy with the Alternators version myself which probably is about the same size as this Masterpiece figure. Might not be G1 accurate, but it's a decent enough Sideswipe.

I don't like alternators sideswipe nor Alternators sunstreaker. because the alt mode choice is wrong. the major reason Is the articulation in the hips & knees are extremly restricted & plain awful.

[Sparky Prime]

The knee joints could be better, but it's still a nice representation of the character. And I like the Dodge Viper more than the Lamborghini Countach. But if they could have used a modern day Lamborghini for the Alternators line... That would have been cool.

[Onslaught Six]

Altmode aside, AltSwipe is still pretty terrible. Whose dumb idea was it to make a convertible with the roof-becomes-chest transformation? And he can't move his hips forward. At all. That's...kind of a big deal, especially when this guy was being released alongside guys like Armada Megatron, who enjoyed HEAPS of hatred for his non-moving hips.

[Sparky Prime]

What do you mean the hips can't move forward at all? It's not a great range of movement, but they can go forward a little. And what's wrong with his chest? Once it's latched into place, it's pretty solid. I'd say it's actually more solid than the DeadEnd/Sunstreaker remold of the figure.

[Onslaught Six]

Okay, barely, but it's not useful articulation, he can't crouch or do kicks or anything like that. And it's not a stability problem with his chest, it's a question of aesthetics. I think it looks dumb.

[Sparky Prime]

He can do sideways kicks and a little bit of a walking pose at least.
I really don't see anything wrong with his chest. With how many 'headlight boobs' molds the Alternators line had, it's a welcome variation, and I still like it more than the remold of the figure.