Comics are Awesome II
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:48 pm
Since the old thread has hit 100 pages, time to start a new one. The last page of the old thread can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=631&start=990
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Ahh, you know what I mean. They're not Wily Numbers, so they're not Super Robots. Admittedly though, the Stardroids certainly could've been the bosses that Ursus missed from the Game Boy games, so the point is rather moot. And, y'know, pedantry.Sparky Prime wrote:The Stardroids are Robot Masters created by Dr. Wily though... Their designs were just based on a robot Wily found called Sunstar.
What about other Robot Masters who don't actually have Wily's Numbers? Mega Man 1 (along with Time Man and Oil Man counting Powered Up) and Mega Man 9 were actually Dr. Light's robots. Mega Man 3 has a different numbering system since they were built by Dr. Light and Wily together. Mega Man 4 were the creations of Dr. Cossack. Mega Man 6, although they had Wily numbers, were actually the creations of people from 8 different countries....Gomess wrote:They're not Wily Numbers, so they're not Super Robots.
Come to think of it, aside the Wily calling Sunstar an 'ancient weapon', the origins of the Stardroids is never really explained....That said, Wily revived the Space Rulers / Stardroids. He didn't create them.
Ok, don't get all Tigermegatron on me, I believe you know your stuff. ;p But no, I take what Capcom give me; the Space Rulers have no Wily Numbers, so they're not Super Robots. Officially speaking, that term is used solely for DW and DR numbers. We're just arguing semantics now, really.Sparky Prime wrote:What about other Robot Masters who don't actually have Wily's Numbers? Mega Man 1 (along with Time Man and Oil Man counting Powered Up) and Mega Man 9 were actually Dr. Light's robots. Mega Man 3 has a different numbering system since they were built by Dr. Light and Wily together. Mega Man 4 were the creations of Dr. Cossack. Mega Man 6, although they had Wily numbers, were actually the creations of people from 8 different countries....
Japanese manual says differently:the origins of the Stardroids is never really explained.
Of course, Street Fighter fans choose to think Zangief isn't gay, so what does "canon" mean, really?彼らはスペースルーラーズという地球外文明製のロボットで、ワイリーが発見し、復活させた。<They are robots created by a civilisation known as the Space Rulers, found and revived by Wily.>
That's an optimistic beginning. So in honor of that, we've rebooted the thread? Man, and here I am without my ridiculous high collar.andersonh1 wrote:Well, the first week of DC's new desperation ploy is upon us.
I shudder to think of what those rejects must have looked like, if what they're using was pick of the litter.And have I mentioned that I really hate the new Superman outfit? Jim Lee mentions in his notes that the first thing to go was the "red underwear", but the lines are still there in his design, they're just colored blue. And if you want to see how bad the redesigns could have been, take a look at the sketches in the back of the book. HIs redesign mandate seems to have been "take every outfit and add 20 layers of useless detail to it".
Did I say something totally in contradiction with something I said earlier?Gomess wrote:Ok, don't get all Tigermegatron on me, I believe you know your stuff. ;p But no, I take what Capcom give me; the Space Rulers have no Wily Numbers, so they're not Super Robots. Officially speaking, that term is used solely for DW and DR numbers. We're just arguing semantics now, really.
I wouldn't go by what the game manuals say personally. The original Super Mario Bros. manual for an example says something about how the citizens of Mushroom Kingdom were transformed into bricks. The ones that Mario smashes looking for power-ups...Japanese manual says differently:
I'm curious, have you seen the new pictures of the Superman costume for the upcoming "Superman: Man of Steel" movie? It's somewhat similar to the new comic look.andersonh1 wrote:And have I mentioned that I really hate the new Superman outfit?
Yeah, and it looks even worse in live-action. Is it just me, or is removing the red shorts and adding lots of panel lines to compensate just an arbitrary decision? As if blue tights, red boots and a red cape aren't just as silly in the real world? As Scourge says, the previous outfit has been more than suitable for 70 something years now, with slight variations. DC has ruined a classic look, and it's amazing how little they had to change to do that.Sparky Prime wrote:I'm curious, have you seen the new pictures of the Superman costume for the upcoming "Superman: Man of Steel" movie? It's somewhat similar to the new comic look.andersonh1 wrote:And have I mentioned that I really hate the new Superman outfit?
Are we really having this argument?Sparky Prime wrote:Did I say something totally in contradiction with something I said earlier?Gomess wrote:Ok, don't get all Tigermegatron on me, I believe you know your stuff. ;p But no, I take what Capcom give me; the Space Rulers have no Wily Numbers, so they're not Super Robots. Officially speaking, that term is used solely for DW and DR numbers. We're just arguing semantics now, really.Anyway, the term is applied to any of the 8 (give or take) boss robots working for Wily, regardless of who originally built them or their number. So the Stardroids would still be considered Robot Masters.
And that's entirely true.I wouldn't go by what the game manuals say personally. The original Super Mario Bros. manual for an example says something about how the citizens of Mushroom Kingdom were transformed into bricks. The ones that Mario smashes looking for power-ups...Japanese manual says differently: