TF Views

I'm a adult TF fan who prefer my TF toys to look more adult designed &
aimed for a higher age buying level. that's why I love the masterpiece
TF toy line is my favorite TF toy line ever. If I had my way,all
takara/hasbro would release is 8 to 10 new mold masterpiece TF toys
per year & that it. in the ultra/leader 8 to 9.5 size level. I'd
rather buy 8 to 10 superp perfection toys than 30 awful/short cuts/
inferior TF toys. FOR ME IT'S ALL ABOUT QUALITY & NOT QUANITY WHEN I BUY TF TOYS.

Lets all pretend/dis-regard the fact stores won't carry 8 to 10 MP TF toys per year. due to shelf space,price tags,no media promoting the toys & the fact the high price makes e'm move a bit slower on the store shelves.

Before you say,YEA or nay,Here's a top 20 list of Masterpiece Transformers toys you would be able to buy in stores within a 2 year time frame period.

(1) Galvatron,based off the 1986 cartoon/movie designs. with a laser canon alt mode. Around the same robot height 9.4 inches tall to be in scale with MP Rodimus.

(2) Soundwave, looks like the 1984 toy in both modes. 8 inches tall in robot mode,to be similar height to the MP seekers. comes with some cassetes & all his weapons/batteries.

(3) Star saber,voyager or ultra sized

(4) victorleo,voyager or ultra sized,combines with starsabre in both robot & super sonic jet mode

(5) Shockwave,in size scale with MP Grimlock in robot mode,since both were rivals in the comics. looks like the 1985 shockwave toy/cartoon characters in both modes.

(6) Masterforce overlord,2 voyager sized tank+stealt long jet that form a super robot known as overlord. comes with accessories & power masters.

(7) Masterpiece Sixshot,some realistic styled alt modes,around 9.5 inches in robot height. can get recolored/remolded into other characters like Rid megatron,greatshot brave shadowmaru.

(8) 1986 Predacons,5 deluxe sized MP toys,eithe released as a gift set or all sold seperatly. or sold both ways

(9) 1984 Devestator,six deluxe or basic sized toys,released as a gift set or sold seperatly or sold both ways.

(10) Masterpiece Blitzwing,2 realistic army tank & jet modes. 8 inches tall in height.

(11) Quickswitch,some realitic alt modes. 8 inches tall in robot mode.

(12) Masterpiece Cyclonus,uiltra 8 to 8.5 inches tall in robot height. looks exactly like the 1986 cartoon/movie cyclonus in both modes & color.

(13) Masterpiece fortress maximus,around 14 inches in robot height. double headmaster toy with accessories.

(14) Masterpiece Blaster,a realistic boom box,around 7 to 7.5 inches tall in robot mode.

(15) G-1 styled megatron,the entire riffle gun with extensions that transforms into a robot mode megatron. like the 1986 cartoon/movie showed. around 8 to 8.5 inches tall in robot mode.

(16) Masterpiece Metroplex,around 11 inches tall in robot mode. instead of a rolling aircraft carrier on wheels,I prefer a water based aircraft carrier alt mode similar in design to armada tidalwave.

(17) Masterpiece Generation 2 big breen 1993 Megatron toy. around 8.5 to 9 inches tall in robot mode.

(18) Masterpiece PMOP/Super ginrai. No it won't be in scale thus biggger than MP-01 Convoy. getting a almost 2 foot toy isn't my cup of tea. This PMOP MP toys would stand around 10 inches tall in combined mode. the smaller/regular cab/bot would be voyager size. the trailer would be a suit of armor. the smaller cab/bot would look more like 1984 optimus toy than that god/awful turn around robot mode the PMOP toy came it.

(19) Masterpiece Ultra magnus,that looks & feels like the Titanium 6 inch G-1 new mold toy. around 8 to 9 inches tall in robot mode. no trailer armor,I want a one piece transformtion like the cartoon/movie showed.

(20) Masterpiece Diatulas,8 Inches tall in robot mode.

(21) Masterpiece Deathsauras. around 8.5 to 9 inches tall in robot mode.

Tigermegatron wrote:I had my way, all takara/hasbro would release is 8 to 10 new mold masterpiece TF toys per year

Did I miss something (likely)? How many do they release per year at the moment??

Gomess wrote:

Tigermegatron wrote:I had my way, all takara/hasbro would release is 8 to 10 new mold masterpiece TF toys per year

Did I miss something (likely)? How many do they release per year at the moment??

Takara/Hasbro releases one new mold MP TF toy per year. sometimes a bit longer.

I don't count repaints as their using already made MP TF toy molds.

I don't know if I feel like counting those Takara movie verse MP TF toys from ROTF & now DOTM. becasuse hasbro doesn't call them MP toys,hasbro considers them regular release movie verse toys.

I'm not sure I understand the point of this exercise, are we just approving or disapproving of your idea, coming up with our own top 20 lists, figuring out a way to make this viable, something else?


I personally wouldn't be into this idea, MP is fine for the very rare, occasional figure when it's a character that has great impact, but I am very particular about which characters deserve to be in it (I'm still not 100% on board with Roddy). Also, I don't want to see it turn into Alternators where the idea overtakes the designing, and zero new characters are created so it becomes a serpent eating its own tail.

I do however think your point highlights a particular failure with Hasbro/Takaratomy to design fully satisfying figures much of the time, and that DOES need to be addressed. For one thing, they need to get their heads back in the game and design better Voyager-class figures, even Ultra, without trying to fool consumer with unsatisfying electronics in place of superior design and accessories.

Tigermegatron wrote:Takara/Hasbro releases one new mold MP TF toy per year.

Ok then, what exactly is this all about:

Tigermegatron wrote:If I had my way,all takara/hasbro would release is 8 to 10 new mold masterpiece TF toys per year

Tigermegatron wrote:FOR ME IT'S ALL ABOUT QUALITY & NOT QUANITY WHEN I BUY TF TOYS.

If that ain't a contradiction, then I'm my own sister! Quality or quantity, which is it?

Tigermegatron wrote:

Gomess wrote:

Tigermegatron wrote:I had my way, all takara/hasbro would release is 8 to 10 new mold masterpiece TF toys per year

Did I miss something (likely)? How many do they release per year at the moment??

Takara/Hasbro releases one new mold MP TF toy per year. sometimes a bit longer.

More often there is a year gap in-between the releases of new MP molds. Only Starscream and Megatron have been released in consecutive years thus far.

Convoy/Optimus Prime - 2003
Starscream - 2006
Megatron - 2007
Grimlock - 2009
Rodimus - 2011

Although if this MP-10 figure is released in September as has been reported, it'd be the first time two Masterpiece figures will come out in the same year. Unless you count the "Movie Masterpiece" figures.

Masterpiece is a line that I just can't get behind. They're too big and fiddly, and generally too expensive for my blood. Just looking at pictures of Starscream and Megatron is enough to terrify me. I'm still not even 100% sure I want an Optimus Prime. Grimlock's the only one I actually own, and while he cost me an arm and a leg and is way too goddamn big to hang around with anything else, at least he's still a fun toy to play with (and he's still not perfect, being a bit on the top-heavy side with a robot chest that won't slide down that last teeny bit, with knees that feel like they're going to snap any time I try to force some clicks of movement out of them).

I like getting a bunch of different dudes at a smaller, lets 'em all hoard on an endtable scale. Deluxes and Basics are perfect for that, with the occasional Voyager.

Plus, like JT said, a barren wasteland of only a handful of Masterpieces per year and nothing else means only remade G1 guys with nothing new, and I know I've said over and over that I hope it never comes to that. I wouldn't want to live in a world where we didn't get Terradive, Skystalker, Brawn, Breacher, or Ransack, and that's just some of the cool crap the ROTF line gave us in the last couple years or so!

That said, I really liked a lot of what the Human Alliance did. Bumblebee, Barricade, and Jazz were great. Seeing a few more like that in DOTM would be cool. Maybe even some HA-style Generations toys (See, it'd be like Alternators, but without all the bad parts. And they could eventually do a Kicker/Ironhide set. )

BWprowl wrote:Terradive, )

Is Terradive worth getting? I've seen it around and thought about but can't bring myself to pull the trigger.

Shockwave wrote:Is Terradive worth getting? I've seen it around and thought about but can't bring myself to pull the trigger.

I'm pretty fond of him. He's got a cool vehicle mode, and really dynamic, posable robot mode (double elbows with tons of range of motion). Transformation is about on the level that I like, and I enjoy that his robot mode is different from most other jet-formers. The weapon's cool too.

Also, there's a definite Cyberjet feel going on with him, especially in the transformation, and I'm a sucker for Cyberjets. So I'll definitely be getting that upcoming Space Case repaint.

Shockwave wrote:

BWprowl wrote:Terradive, )

Is Terradive worth getting? I've seen it around and thought about but can't bring myself to pull the trigger.

I did and he was great until he fell off my TV and his waist shattered. I'm thinking it's just mine but yeah. Really sad about that. I think I'm just going to find another one at this point; I tried to fix him but to no avail.

If anyone else wants to attempt to fix him, by the by, let me know. I'll only ask you to cover shipping.