TF Views

So 2005 reports that we'll be getting two different releases of the Constructicons in the second movie toyline - one set will combine, but will not transform to individual robot modes. The other set will transform individually, but will not combine.

My thoughts: If true, that 'really'' sucks.

Check it here:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... -toys.html

If true, I will not buy either.

While we don't know if they'll even transform individually in the movie yet, it seems an enormous waste of potential to half-ass this. Arguments have been made for stability and the like, but as we haven't seen the thing yet, I'm still convinced that anything less than a real gestalt would be a right shame for all involved. We 'know' the design team can do better than that.

Indeed. Perhaps they're also looking into the cost issue, like I said, about there being Seven Of Them at a deluxe pricepoint? I mean, the chances of the Average Parent going and buying '$70' worth of construction vehicles is probably slim.

Oh, God, it's almost like what I feared from the first movie. But instead of "Transforming Optimus Prime!" we're getting "Combining Devastator!"

Curse you, movie lines! :/

I love how loads of people are going "This is awesome, anything else is unrealistic." TF fans will simultaneously love and hate anything. ANYTHING. If Hasbro announced they were cancelling Transformers as a toyline, people would ARGUE IN FAVOUR OF IT. I guarantee you this.

Take Predaking as a fine example of a gestalt on that sort of scale that works. It can be done, I feel to assume less is to undermine the designers' skill.
Also: When in the past ten years have gestalts ever shelfwarmed, Micromaster Sixcombiners aside?

The RiD combiners shelf-warmed towards the end, when it was impossible to get all of them at once. But, that is to be expected with any line.

Considering how well the toys have been selling since '05, with the movie being a high-point to that, Hasbro should not be assuming people will shy away from buying $80+ (factor in the price increases this year) of construction vehicles. Parents will soak stuff like that up at Chrismas, on top of all of the parents buying 1 or 2 and quitting.

I will buy the combining vehicle set, *if* it is accurate to the movie. I could go with something like a larger DuoCon, (Septicons? Ewwww), but only if it is accurate to the movie. If they are robot/vehicle/combiners in the movie, I want that on the toys.

Dom
-might be saving money on this line.

onslaught86 wrote:My thoughts: If true, that 'really'' sucks.

I agree. That's one of the great things about Transformers gestalts is that each individual vehicle transforms into a robot and can also combine to form a larger robot. Having two versions of the characters to serve that function just really sucks...

This ain't Voltron folks, they should have learned that shit from the Energon Prime debacle.

First off, if this is true, I got ten bucks says seven-THOUSAND fans will bash together a working combination of the larger, fully transforming toys.

Second off, I'm not buying this quite yet. Thing is, Dev is one of the centerpieces of this line, and if people were willing to drop $80 on big, fancy versions of the leaders last year, I can't see why they would mind paying the same for the Big Bad of the sequel. Furthermore, that centerpiece aspect means that I fully expect there to be more than one version of the guy. A smaller-scale, vehicle only version does seem likely, and Deluxe-Class versions of more prominent components are expected as well (I nominate 'Buckethead' for the name of the seventh guy, while we're here). Anyway, I'm reasonably certain that we'll see a fully-functional version in some form, maybe in some halfway between Basic and Deluxe size, sold as a ruinous giftset. Remember, the first movie had $90 worth of Bumblebee on the shelf, and that thing didn't even shelfwarm until the end.

And thanks to '86, I have a new sigquote!

I will be charitable and set the bar at "movie accuracy". Of course, the movie will probably assume a robot/vehicle/limb conversion.

An incomplete conversion would be unacceptable, unless the toys look *amazing*.

Dom