IGN.com's top 5 Transformers Comics article

[JediTricks]

Get ready to arrrrrrguuuuuuue!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/25/ ... omic-books

Impressed they went with that choice for #1 though, kind of bold, but their write-up misses the nuance of the book.

[Dominic]

-ReGeneration 1: I agree that it should be on here, but I am perplexed as to why they used the cover to issue 86. (Nothing wrong with it. But, there were other, arguably better, options.)

-War Within: The write-up calls out the biggest problem with this series (for the purposes of this sort of list), the fact it is not new reader friendly. As much as I love this book, I am not sure I would have included it (even if I am happy to see it get a push).

-All Hail Megatron: I generally agree. It probably should have been a "What if....?" type book. But, I am still likely to reread it. (I actually flipped through it last week while sorting some comics. Despite the fact that I have the compilations, and I believe a hardcover, the single issues are sticking around by virtue of being my most accessible copies at the moment.)

-Matrix Quest: Possibly the most over-rated TF comic of all time. Furman was not so much riffing on specific movies or novels as he was riffing on genres. The EC horror "twist" is the book initially presented as a western was particularly clever. And, the art in the "Classics Illustrated" riff was exceptional for the book up to this point. But, that does not make "Matrix Quest" an all-time great. And, "...a compelling, dramatically rich tale about transforming robots." is a ridiculous over-sell.

-Last Stand of the Wreckers:
I would not call it *the* best, but it is one of the best.


Obligatory "what I would have included" list:
-Man of Iron: At least a decade ahead of its time.
-For all Mankind: Costa may not get TFs or like the fans, but he has ideas and can write. (I likely would have put this ahead of "All Hail Megatron".)
-TF/Action Force: The power of cross-branding, and it actually holds up.
-Legacy of Unicron: First appearance post-"High Noon Tex" appearance of Death's Head, a character that has jumped between properties in context.
-Target 2006: Not the first UK story, but precedent setting in what could be done in the UK.

[BWprowl]

I am surprised and elated to see AHM on there. It's nice to know people who aren't Walky's wikidrones can recognize an excellent story when they see it (even if I also agree with the common sentiment that the story would have been better served as a stand-alone 'What If?' tale).

Not so surprised to see LSotW on there, we'll be hearing about that one for a long time. Though people need to be aware that the precedent for that book was set way back in 'Spotlight: Kup', which I'd love to see get a mention, that issue is grossly underrated.

-Matrix Quest: Possibly the most over-rated TF comic of all time.

That's a funny way of spelling "More Than Meets The Eye".

[Shockwave]

I would have included "Crisis of Command" or "Dinobot Hunt" or even "In the National Interest" before Target: 2006. Don't get me wrong, I love Target as much as anyone one, but the others were definitely better stories.

[Sparky Prime]

Good to see War Within on that list, I really enjoyed that series. Not surprised to see Last Stand of the Wreckers at the top with how much praise it gets from fans. For the most part I can't fault the choices they made but there is no way AHM should be in the top 5, it's such a bad story.

[JediTricks]

-Matrix Quest: Possibly the most over-rated TF comic of all time.

That's a funny way of spelling "More Than Meets The Eye".

Seriously, are you just cribbing from the "Internet Troll Handbook" now?

[BWprowl]

That's a funny way of spelling "More Than Meets The Eye".

Seriously, are you just cribbing from the "Internet Troll Handbook" now?

No? I genuinely feel that MTMTE is vastly overrated? Everyone hypes up Roberts's knack for varied characterization and readable dialogue and excuses or overlooks his issues with pacing, story focus, and telling instead of showing, not to mention his clear contempt for Transformers as a concept.

It's not a consistently bad book, and the 'Second Season' has already improved on a lot of things in my opinion, and even become somewhat enjoyable. But it's not worth nearly the amount of hype and fan-love it receives.

[JediTricks]

That's a funny way of spelling "More Than Meets The Eye".

Seriously, are you just cribbing from the "Internet Troll Handbook" now?

No? I genuinely feel that MTMTE is vastly overrated? Everyone hypes up Roberts's knack for varied characterization and readable dialogue and excuses or overlooks his issues with pacing, story focus, and telling instead of showing, not to mention his clear contempt for Transformers as a concept.

It's not a consistently bad book, and the 'Second Season' has already improved on a lot of things in my opinion, and even become somewhat enjoyable. But it's not worth nearly the amount of hype and fan-love it receives.

Whether you feel it's overrated or not, your post was as trolly as it gets. You expressed your opinion the way a lazy internet troll would, or a commenter on Gawker, and we're better than that.

[BWprowl]

Whether you feel it's overrated or not, your post was as trolly as it gets. You expressed your opinion the way a lazy internet troll would, or a commenter on Gawker, and we're better than that.

We can get snarky too, and I think there's nothing wrong with that, we're theoretically here for fun, after all. And I did articulate my issues once you prompted me, it's not like I just dropped an incendiary opinion and ran away. I just said the comic was overrated, I was hardly implying "This comic is bad and people who like it should feel bad".

[JediTricks]

Whether you feel it's overrated or not, your post was as trolly as it gets. You expressed your opinion the way a lazy internet troll would, or a commenter on Gawker, and we're better than that.

We can get snarky too, and I think there's nothing wrong with that, we're theoretically here for fun, after all. And I did articulate my issues once you prompted me, it's not like I just dropped an incendiary opinion and ran away. I just said the comic was overrated, I was hardly implying "This comic is bad and people who like it should feel bad".

It's trolly because it suggests supplementing someone else's opinion for your own in a "jokey" manner that is really meant to get away with saying their piece and supplanting another's. It happens all the time, but people don't think about what they're doing enough, that's what bugs me, the casual thoughtless way the internet corrupts people into doing that stuff. There's snarky and then there's trolling.

The actual criticism you posted later is valid, although I don't agree with most of it and feel that Roberts' character work is a great counterpart to RID's stories. Were MTMTE the only ongoing title, I might buy the criticism better, but it's intentionally not.