Transformers 4 Casting information

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Decided to make a new thread since we didn't have one for news on the cast in general...

We already know that Mark Wahlberg, Jack Reynor and Nicola Peltz have all signed on to be in Transformers 4. Today it was announced Stanley Tucci has joined the cast, and apparently we can expect another announcement for the cast soon.
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Presumably Tucci plays Wahlberg's long-suffering stereotypical Jewish line manager.
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Gomess wrote:Presumably Tucci plays Wahlberg's long-suffering stereotypical Jewish line manager.
I like him as Muerte. "I am Death!" "Hi, Morty!" "No, it's Muerte, Muerte!!!"

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Tucci was great in Undercover Blues, I didn't know anybody else saw that. But here? Did they cast him as Agent Simmons' brother?
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JediTricks wrote:Tucci was great in Undercover Blues, I didn't know anybody else saw that.
Hey, JT got the reference. Awesome. :mrgreen: Some friends of mine who like it got me to watch it with them once, otherwise I'd never have seen it either.

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andersonh1 wrote:
JediTricks wrote:Tucci was great in Undercover Blues, I didn't know anybody else saw that.
Hey, JT got the reference. Awesome. :mrgreen: Some friends of mine who like it got me to watch it with them once, otherwise I'd never have seen it either.

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Awesome! Glad to hear you have good friends. :mrgreen: I saw it in theaters in during my year in Phoenix, AZ when I was 18 and really enjoyed it.
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It's worth a serious mention,That all the actors/actresses who could act & had long resumes in the Previous Three live action TF movies received either back ground character roles,cameos or extremely tiny parts that meant nothing. While all the awful no skilled actors/actors with small resumes got all the starring core cast roles in the previous Three TF live action movies. WITH MICHEAL IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION HOW WELL HE USES THE TALENT & NO TALENT HACKS.
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Tigermegatron wrote:It's worth a serious mention,That all the actors/actresses who could act & had long resumes in the Previous Three live action TF movies received either back ground character roles,cameos or extremely tiny parts that meant nothing. While all the awful no skilled actors/actors with small resumes got all the starring core cast roles in the previous Three TF live action movies. WITH MICHEAL IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION HOW WELL HE USES THE TALENT & NO TALENT HACKS.
John Turturro has had a ton of roles in his career and had a pretty large role in all of the first 3 films. Jon Voight similarly has had a long career in acting and played a big role in the first film. Even Shia LaBeouf had a respectable amount of roles before he did any of the Transformers films. And really, I wouldn't say the size of ones resume is any indication of how good an actor someone is. Everyone has to get their start somewhere. Like if you look at someone like Josh Duhamel, Transformers was the franchise that helped launch and make his career what it is today.
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Sparky Prime wrote:
Tigermegatron wrote:It's worth a serious mention,That all the actors/actresses who could act & had long resumes in the Previous Three live action TF movies received either back ground character roles,cameos or extremely tiny parts that meant nothing. While all the awful no skilled actors/actors with small resumes got all the starring core cast roles in the previous Three TF live action movies. WITH MICHEAL IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION HOW WELL HE USES THE TALENT & NO TALENT HACKS.
John Turturro has had a ton of roles in his career and had a pretty large role in all of the first 3 films. Jon Voight similarly has had a long career in acting and played a big role in the first film. Even Shia LaBeouf had a respectable amount of roles before he did any of the Transformers films. And really, I wouldn't say the size of ones resume is any indication of how good an actor someone is. Everyone has to get their start somewhere. Like if you look at someone like Josh Duhamel, Transformers was the franchise that helped launch and make his career what it is today.
John Voight did not receive a core staring chracter role in any of the previous Three live action TF movies. No plot nor stories revolved around john voigh's character in any of the TF movies. John voight had limited dialogue & limited screen time in each live action TF movie. BEING NAMED THE GUY IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY OPERATIONS IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING A CORE STARRING CHARACTER.
NEXT YOUR PROBABLY GONNA SAY PRESIIDENT OBAMA WAS A CORE CHARACTER IN A FEW OF THE TF MOVIES DUE TO HIS RANK BEING COMMANDER IN CHIEF/PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

Shia la barf,Megan fox,anthony anderson,Rachael Taylor,kevin dunn,julie white,Ramon Rodriguez,Rosie Huntington-Whiteley WERE ALL THE CORE STARRING ACTORS/ACTRESSES IN THE THREE INDIVIDUAL LIVE ACTION TF MOVIES. everyone else were treated as secondary core characters,cameos characters,back ground characters,small parts characters,etc... BERNIE MAC HAD MORE TALENT,ACTING SKILLS,AWARDS & HUGE RESUME COMPARED TO EVERYONE I MENTIONED IN THIS PARAGRAPH YET HE GOT A CAMEO ROLE THAT BARELY LASTED A FEW MINUTED IN THE 2007 TF MOVIE. BERNIE MAC DESERVED A MUCH BIGGER PART IN THE 2007 MOVIE.

John Turturro was not a core starring character in any of the TF live action movies. his role was comedy relief & a free agent character status. Examples since you probably won't understand without them. Wreckgar from the 1986 movie/season 3. quintessons from the 1986 movie/season 3.

Josh Dumahel was not a core character of any of the live action movies. he was a part of the secondary core character cast in each TF movie.

Josh Duhamel was being nice & Exaggerating when he said the three transformers live action movies were the prime reasons his career took off. Josh would have still done fine without the TF movies. as josh does a ton of romantic comedy movies that did beyond well in reviews & sales. UN-LIKE SHIA WHO BASHES EVERY MOVIE HE'S IN & BLAMES THE MOVIES AS A EXCUSE TO DISGUISE HIS BAD ACTING SKILLS. JOSH IS A NICE GUY & OVER PRAISES EVERYTHING,EVEN TO THE EXTEND OF DOING OVER Exaggerating LIES.

Josh Duhamel's had what the movie industry calls a "SAFE ROLE" in each TF live action movie. Since he wasn't the star nor part of the core cast,If the TF movies did bad or good in reviews-----THIS HAD NO EFFECT On JOSH DUHAMEL'S MOVIE CAREER RESUME as he was a secondary core cast member.

Again another example for sparky since he still won't get the message:
1- in the three live action TF movies,Anyone on Team shia which consisted of family members & civilian friends were part of the Core cast.

2- Team josh duhamel & his army buddies in each live action TF movie were a part of the secondary core cast.

3- John turturro in each live action TF movie was what the sporting industry calls a free agent. He wasn't a part of any core cast in any of the TF movies. His free agent role was COMEDY RELIEF. He was their to act like a fool,nut cast & over the top moron,to make the other actors look a bit more normal,brave & smarter. he was also their to make the movie viewers three painful watching hours less painful by making them laugh.
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Tigermegatron wrote:John Voight did not receive a core staring chracter role in any of the previous Three live action TF movies. No plot nor stories revolved around john voigh's character in any of the TF movies. John voight had limited dialogue & limited screen time in each live action TF movie. BEING NAMED THE GUY IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY OPERATIONS IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING A CORE STARRING CHARACTER.
I never said that he (or anyone else for that matter) was a "core staring character". My point was that he's an example of a big name actor who wasn't merely a background character, a cameo or and had an extremely tiny part, as is what you had said in your post. There's a big difference between such a tiny role and a supporting role. Those types of tiny roles are like what Bernie Mac, Rainn Wilson and John Malkovich had in the films. Supporting roles on the other hand can actually be pretty big.

That said, Jon Voight's character being a supporting character was a big role in the first film's plot. It certainly was not limited in dialogue or screen time. As the Secretary of Defense, he was the guy in charge of the investigation behind the attack in Qatar at the start of the film, and was shown to be the guy giving the press conferences about it. He was the guy Maggie tried to convince aliens hacked their network, and later got her and Glen out of jail. He was one of the characters brought in when Sector Seven revealed what they knew about the situation when the Decepticons started to make their move and he even helped Simmons fight Frenzy when they were trying to get a message to the air force to help the group that took the Allspark with them. That's a pretty major role to be shown throughout the whole movie like that.
Shia la barf,Megan fox,anthony anderson,kevin dunn,julie white,Ramon Rodriguez,Rosie Huntington-Whiteley WERE ALL THE CORE STARRING ACTORS/ACTRESSES IN THE THREE INDIVIDUAL LIVE ACTION TF MOVIES. everyone else were treated as secondary core characters,cameos characters,back ground characters,small parts characters,etc...
Out of that list, only Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox and Rosie Huntington-Whiteley certainly, but the rest would be supporting characters. Anthony Anderson's role was barely even that.
John Turturro was not a core starring character in any of the TF live action movies. his role was comedy relief & a secondary core character status. Examples since you probably won't understand without them. Ultra mangus & the elite guard from the 2008 TF animated cartoon series. Wreckgar from the 1986 movie/season 3. quintessons from the 1986 movie/season 3.
Ramon Rodriguez, Kevin Dunn and Julie White's characters were primarily there for comedy relief, yet you consider them to be a core characters over John Turturro? You're grossly undervaluing the role John Turturro played in all 3 films. He may have been used a lot for comedy relief but he was also the 'go to' guy when it came to any information about Transformers activity on Earth, because of his role as a Sector Seven agent. Sam turned to him for help and answers in both of the sequels and had a pretty important role in advancing the plot in all 3 films. He's more like Agent Fowler is from the Prime cartoon.
Josh Dumahel was not a core character of any of the live action movies. he was a part of secondary core character cast.
He was billed as the 3rd actor (below Shia and Megan or Rosie) for all 3 films, and he was one of the characters the story focused on in the first film. His role somewhat diminished in the sequels, but he was a principal character for all 3 films.
Josh Duhamel was being nice & Exaggerating when he said the three transformers live action movies were the prime reasons his career took off. Josh would have still done fine without the TF movies. as josh does a ton of romantic comedy movies that did beyond well in reviews & sales. UN-LIKE SHIA WHO BASHES EVERY MOVIE HE'S IN & BLAMES THE MOVIES AS A EXCUSE TO DISGUISE HIS BAD ACTING SKILLS. JOSH IS A NICE GUY & OVER PRAISES EVERYTHING,EVEN TO THE EXTEND OF DOING OVER Exaggerating LIES.

Josh Duhamel's had what the movie industry calls a "SAFE ROLE" in each TF live action movie. Since he wasn't the star nor part of the core cast,If the TF movies did bad or good in reviews-----THIS HAD NO EFFECT On JOSH DUHAMEL'S MOVIE CAREER RESUME as he was a secondary core cast member.
Look at the number of roles he had before Transformers. Then look at the number of roles after. Transformers was his big break. That's not an exaggeration or him just being nice. And there is no such thing as a "safe role" like you're suggesting. It doesn't matter if he was the star of the film or not, as long as someone sees and likes the work he's done, that leads to more and sometimes bigger roles. Which is exactly what happened to his career.
Again another example for sparky since he still won't get the message:
Oh look, another pointless insult towards me. Notice how you're the only one doing that?
1- in the three live action TF movies,Anyone on Team shia which consisted of family members & civilian friends were part of the Core cast.
No. Just because someone is associated with a main character does not automatically make them a core character as well. His family and friends are mainly secondary characters.
2- Team josh duhamel & his army buddies in each live action TF movie were a part of the secondary core cast.
Again, no. The first film had 3 interconnected storylines with each following certain characters. Sam as the boy getting his first car, Captain Lennox as the military team leader who is attacked by and learns to fight against Decepticons, and Defense Secretary Keller and Maggie Madsen who act as the government's way of figuring out and dealing with the situation. As the story comes together, Lennox and Sam become the two to deal with the primary Decepticon threat, as the rest provide support to them. As I mentioned above, Duhamel's role diminished somewhat in the sequels, but he is still a part of the primary cast.
3- John turturro in each live action TF movie was what the sporting industry calls a free agent. He wasn't a part of any core cast in any of the TF movies. His free agent role was COMEDY RELIEF. He was their to act like a fool,nut cast & over the top moron,to make the other actors look a bit more normal,brave & smarter. he was also their to make the movie viewers three painful watching hours less painful by making them laugh.
A free agent is a player who isn't under contract with a specific team which makes them eligible to sign with another team if they want. I don't see how that analogy is supposed to work just because he does a lot of comedy relief in the films. As I pointed out above, he wasn't all comedy relief, and that's not a reason why he can't be one of the main characters in the films.
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