The modern comics universe has had such a different take on G1, one that's significantly represented by the Generations toys, so they share a forum. A modern take on a Real Cybertronian Hero. Currently starring Generations toys, IDW "The Transformers" comics, MTMTE, TF vs GI Joe, and Windblade. Oh wait, and now Skybound, wheee!
The TF version only had four issues and is considered to be part of the main G1 run.
Not quite. The only time it was reprinted was in a very rare Marvel published TPB in the mid-80s. But, the only character entries to be reprinted otherwise were some of the later character entries (for characters that came out in '87 and later) in the IDW compilations. Titan did not reprint any character profiles if I recall.
Ah, so you're with Dom when it comes to the HONOURRRR then.
Dude, the tech specs said he had doubt. That is not the same as indifference.
Stephenson's performance in mind, but it just made me laugh.
Ah, I did not recognize the voice actor's name.
I kind of heard that voice. But, it did not sound as cringe-worthy or hilarious as you are making it out to be.
Dom
-certainly does not hear Judd Nelson's voice for Rodimus in the ongoing....
I totally hear Stephenson's voice when I read it and didn't think anything of it. I mean, Japanese isn't the first thing I think of when I hear/read HONOUUUUURR!!! For me, Klingon is the first thing that comes to mind, but that's because I grew up with more exposure to Star Trek than Japanese culture (I say that as recognizing that Japanese culture is probably where Star Trek got that from).
Honestly though, I've just always wanted a store where his "cool to the cause" beleifs was explored and IDW certainly delivered in that vein where Marvel G1 and DW never did. I also always wanted to see Galvatron as a separate character from Megatron and we got that too. So overall I would say IDW is scoring much higher on the Tech Spec based fiction than any license holder so far.
See, actually growing up with G1- unless O6 is suddenly way older than I thought- I can't even bring myself to criticise its voice acting. I mean... that's just what they sound like, y'know? =p
The cartoon did have exceptional (for the time) voice acting. I can see why some people think that Thundercracker sounded "thuggish", bit I never specifically got that impression.
In some cases, I cannot hear the cartoon voice, mostly because the comic iteration of the character is too different. The most obvious example of this is UK Cyclonus. IDW Galvatron is another examnple. (In contrast, old UK Galvatron always sounded very much like the season 3 voice.)
Some of the scenes from AHM with the Autobots are all the more disturbing if you heard the original cartoon voices. (Look at the scenes with Ironhide, Mirage and Sunstreaker.)
Dom
-Micheal Bell's Prowl....*shudder*..sounds so friendly...
See, now, I never thought Michael Bell's Prowl sounded friendly. I thought he sounded constantly frustrated. Just on the edge of telling all the other Autobots to sort their shit out and tow the line for once. Dunno why.
And maybe we have different definitions of "thug". Thundercracker just always struck me as a traditional schoolyard bully type. Not that he didn't have room for deeper characterisation, but the initial impression was of a guy who joined the army to make himself bigger.
Maybe it is because UK Prowl was always a bit nastier than US Prowl. I was flipping through some UK comics, (that I will discuss elsewhere after reading them fully), and noticed that Prowl had more of an edge in the UK. Maybe Bell's Duke makes me associate cartoon Prowl with being a nice hero type guy.
Thundercracker always struck me as a more or less professional soldier. It was just what he did. Skywarp's characterization was never really dealt with. Until AHM, I do not recall him being portrayed as anywhere near as bad as his character profile made him out to be.
Dom
-was always kind of annoyed by that sort of thing.
Well, age may have something to do with it. I was born the year TF came to this country, so I didn't really have the mentality that'd let me notice if Skywarp wasn't as mean in the cartoon as he was in his tech spec. I just accepted that they were the same guy, so he *must* be that mean; they just never happened to show it, or I never saw the eps where they did. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were probably old enough to make distinctions like that at the time. And, as you point out, there's some significant cultural differences. In the UK, "competent soldier" =/= "maybe we oughta wrap 'im up an' put a little bow on 'im".
Well, being competent does not mean that he is a nice guy. Thundercracker was not the guy who was coming up with plans that involved feeding the Autobots into a giant car crusher. That kind of recreational barbarism was all Megatron. Thundercracker was not blowing the hell out of sporting arenas on his day off like Blitzwing.
But, yeah, I was 6 when TF came to America, which was just old enough for me to notice that Laserbeak from the toy packages was much different from the character on the cartoon. Even putting aside questions about the character models, I very quickly had to sort TF between the cartoon, the comics, and the toy packages. And, I also just kind of knew that the early issues that crossed over with Marvel had to be partially ignored. After all, why did the characters never see or hear from each other again? Ditto for the first cross over with "GI Joe".
Dom
-also accepted the then impossibility of ever getting a good Ratchet or Ironhide.
Then our experiences were *profoundly* dichotomous, because not only did I not see the three continuities as mutually exclusive (and anyone who remembers my very first thread on BWTF can attest to that), but Ratchet was one of the first TFs I owned, by virtue of him being my big brother's first TF.
Not sure why Ratchet, now I think about it. Perhaps because our granddad had been an ambulance driver, and there were no nautical TFs in the first wave. I believe the first TF that was bought specifically for *me* was... Bonecrusher? Yeah, I was a long-term planner even then.
...The Constructicons' portrayal in AHM was fair enough. Nice little sadistic joke. But Hook's model was taken *completely* from the old G1 manga. His face! Shocking!
