Exactly. Sparky's saying that this is a flaw on the writer's part, but the real problem would be if he had Perceptor hanging around, not helping Prime, with no explaination. That he's going through all the trouble to point out that "Yeah Perceptor is here and he could help Prime but he's not because he's Different now" shows that he actually put some thought into it.Dominic wrote: the fact that characters are mentioning in-context how odd Perceptor has been lately shows that McCarthy likely has a plan for this.
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That's the thing... Perceptor basically is hanging around, not helping Prime with no explanation. Ok, he's "different" now, but an emo Perceptor doesn't explain why he isn't helping to save Prime.
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Because he 'clearly' no longer has the ability to do so. Ratchet says so--Perceptor is not the same as Perceptor was before. He's changed.
If Perceptor was just a random background character so far, it'd be different.
The art in the Earth portions of this one really were jarring--they're not inherently bad art. In fact, in some bits, it reminds me of Atomic Robo. But it doesn't look the same as everything else in the book so far, and it's annoying. The Soundwave bit--while still a great piece of McCarthy's nice Decepticon characterization moments (which are the 'sole' reason I am reading this book, honestly)--really loses a lot of its impact from the art. AHM is a big, impactful story so far--the art in the Earth portions seems more suited for...I dunno, something lighter?
I think why Sparky doesn't like this so much is that there's a lot of stuff that happens in AHM that you'd...kind of expect. Yeah, Mirage suspected as a traitor. That's been done plenty of times before--in fact, it pretty much defines Mirage's character. But here, Mirage *isn't* the traitor, and Ironhide has gone so much further than we've ever seen in a TF book.
Seriously: Can you name any time when the Autobots were at each others throats like this in the fiction?
And then there's the Decepticons about to implode on themselves, as we're seeing play out. Sure, you'd 'expect' that to happen, but...we never see it happen.
If Perceptor was just a random background character so far, it'd be different.
The art in the Earth portions of this one really were jarring--they're not inherently bad art. In fact, in some bits, it reminds me of Atomic Robo. But it doesn't look the same as everything else in the book so far, and it's annoying. The Soundwave bit--while still a great piece of McCarthy's nice Decepticon characterization moments (which are the 'sole' reason I am reading this book, honestly)--really loses a lot of its impact from the art. AHM is a big, impactful story so far--the art in the Earth portions seems more suited for...I dunno, something lighter?
I think why Sparky doesn't like this so much is that there's a lot of stuff that happens in AHM that you'd...kind of expect. Yeah, Mirage suspected as a traitor. That's been done plenty of times before--in fact, it pretty much defines Mirage's character. But here, Mirage *isn't* the traitor, and Ironhide has gone so much further than we've ever seen in a TF book.
Seriously: Can you name any time when the Autobots were at each others throats like this in the fiction?
And then there's the Decepticons about to implode on themselves, as we're seeing play out. Sure, you'd 'expect' that to happen, but...we never see it happen.
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We don't know that. All we know is he's "different" and that can practically mean anything.Onslaught Six wrote:Because he 'clearly' no longer has the ability to do so. Ratchet says so--Perceptor is not the same as Perceptor was before. He's changed.
Yes, I do find the story a little too predictable, but that's only one problem I have with this story. I've mentioned several other issues I have with this story in this thread as well.I think why Sparky doesn't like this so much is that there's a lot of stuff that happens in AHM that you'd...kind of expect.
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I like how the Decepticons are not just imploding to implode though. There are more sensible reasons for it happening.
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Yes. The Seekers, a long-tied together unit, falling apart due to Starscream spending more time in a leadership role and Thundy's doubts about The Cause, forcing Skywarp into abandonment issues? That's awesome. And this thing has actually managed to make Bombshell cool. Bombshell (and the Insecticons in general) have 'never' been cool to me. But here, he's a little snively bastard who seems to be 'intentionally' forcing the 'cons apart. It's fun stuff.
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As much as I'd like that to be the case, as It'd explain how they fixed him so easily - I'd like to see a little more sacrifice worked into that, like Ratchet using his own components to repair Prime - it'd deny us the Prime vs. Megatron fight this has been building to. I expect good things.Dominic wrote:Some people, (at AllSpark, or maybe the IDW forums, I dunno), are speculating that the Prime at the end of issue 9 is a fake of some kind, created with the help of Mirage or Hound.
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I'm also hoping they'll tidy the art for the second TPB, there's a marked change in detailing between the first and the second sequence of Earth. It reminds me a little of the G2 art shift, which was a good thing at the time as it shifted between Manny Galan and Derik Yaniger, then later Geoff Senior (Hey, IDW? Moar Senior plzkthx), yet when it's the same artist being inconsistent it just doesn't feel right. More to come, work now, bah.

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Except Guido wasn't working on the ninth issue, at all, apparently.
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Yes, we discussed that at the time. But there's still a notable shift in art styles here, and it reminds me of that. I actually like it when they change art styles while changing location or storyline, it's a good visual reiteration of the difference.

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The latest issue of Maximum Dinobots actually did just that. Except it worked better, because both sets of art styles were *good*.onslaught86 wrote:Yes, we discussed that at the time. But there's still a notable shift in art styles here, and it reminds me of that. I actually like it when they change art styles while changing location or storyline, it's a good visual reiteration of the difference.
