Shockwave wrote:Yeah pretty much all sports with football being the worst. It's largely due to my formative years where I was stuck in back woods literally middle of nowhere North Dakota where if you didn't completely immerse yourself in sports you routinely getting beaten, berated abused and generally treated like a pariah. And while the abuse itself stopped after high school, I have yet to really meet anyone that has changed my perception of sports. So yeah, pretty much all sports. But the football jocks were always the worst.
Hey, hate the players, not the game. Fact is, I don't personally know any of the players I watch on a football field, and could care less about who they are. To me, they're just the performers in the grand field-battle of a sport I really enjoy watching and following. To hate an entire medium based on some jocks being mean in high school is just irrational, in my opinion. It'd be like if I refused to eat food because a chef kicked my ass, or if I hated reading because a girl who wrote fanfiction broke up with me. I mean, these guys who screwed with you in high school probably wore shirts, right? It's not like you hate shirts now. 'Sports' is just such a broad range of activities and entertainment options that to hate the whole collective because of *other* people who're fans of it, well...you know how you're always telling Dom to get over annoying Beast Wars fans?
Gargoyles was one of the best shows ever so I'm gonna have to check out W.I.T.C.H. I have followed some writer/creators in tv, Whedon also being a good example with Firefly and Buffy. Prowl, have you read the Gargoyles comic? It was writen by Weissman as well and the current Buffy comic is "produced" by Whedon and often written by the same writers from the series.
I like to affectionately call it 'Girlgoyles'
. I'ma warn you, WITCH starts out a bit rough and doesn't find its feet quickly (the voice acting is particularly dodgy at the beginning and to this day I'm not certain if it got better over time or if I just got used to it). But stick with it, and you'll see it's got a really impressive over-arching plot, with great use of a changing status quo (to a degree that was very surprising to me. I'd keep expecting things to reset back to the previous status quo, but they wouldn't, and the cast and story would just march on). About halfway through the first season it's become solid and entertaining, and then the second season, which is where Weisman was actually running the show, starts strong and just kicks more ass as it goes along. All the characters ended up growing on me over time too, with Irma in particular really grating on me in the early episodes only to eventually become my favorite. Plus the theme song is rad as hell.
Although I guess it's a little different with tv because in the case of tv, each series is a story unto itself so following a particular writer from one series to the next wouldn't necessarily be so disjoint because you're essentially following into different continuities anyway. Same with movies. Sort of.
When you think about it, pretty much every medium EXCEPT for franchise comic books is like this. Those are weird in that they're really the only things that operate that way, where all the work of these hundreds of different authors is somehow supposed to gel and connect up and across into one megastory that would be insane by any other standard. It's like...can you imagine if all of, say, Warner Brothers' movies were required to be about the same twenty or so characters and all had to be in continuity with each other, just because they were made by the same company? That sounds insane, and its logic like that that results in the situations that provoke O6's Standard Comic Book Response. I mean yeah, there are cases where things are connected, like spin-offs of TV shows, or Kevin Smith's six-film New Jersey 'Trilogy', but even at that point it's mostly the same people involved with the stories, rather than a bunch of writers forced to write around each other for something as pithy as 'continuity' between superhero magazines. And that's why people focus on the *people* involved in the stories of those other mediums when they look to them, and why that practice even carries over to comic books for a lot of us, because we recognize that it's the guy *creating* the story that dictates the quality of it, not the continuity it's obstinately part of. Even you seem to get it, mentioning that you follow/enjoy Whedon's stuff, and even knowing that Weisman wrote the Gargoyles comic! You, Shockwave, who thought he never paid attention to writers on comics! You're doing it, man! That's the power of enjoying a writer's work!
That's true, there have been a few exceptions, although I found out about Weisman through following the franchise. Now I just gotta figure out how to track down W.I.T.C.H. in some sort of watchable format.