TF Views

andersonh1 wrote:

The virus thing is okay and all, and makes sense to a point, but it's getting a bit played out. But I digress.

I think it's a virus in this story as well. I tend to see that as an attempt by more rational writers to avoid the idea of magic and the occult as an explanation for zombies. Maybe they just think "a virus" plays better to the modern audience.

Perhaps it does, perhaps it does. And again, I'm totally all right with that. I don't care how the zombies get there, it's just important that they're there. But it's like mutants in the Marvel Universe, it becomes the catch-all thing to explain something that's pretty much inexplicable. I mean, sure "virus" makes sense if you're talking 28 Days Later or the like, where you're basically dealing with people that have super-rabies and severe brain damage, but it's like...how the hell is a virus still affecting a dead person?

And y'know...I don't think zombies get the occult angle used in their movies that terribly often. Funny, given the origin of the word and all. Usually it's "science" run amok, whether bioengineered virus or experimental nerve gas or toxic waste or the like. Or, in a hilarious example, experimental nerve gas used in the manufacturing of party ecstasy drugs that turn ravers into killer zombie people. Terrible movie, amazing concept.

Hm. Why have I not bought this book with giant shapeshifting space robots fighting zombies drawn by an amazing artist yet? The hell's wrong with me?

To slightly re-rail this topic..is Grimlock in this book?

There's the problem with it right there, no Grimlock!

Really? Dang, IDW, get on the ball! I'm not sayin' Grimlock's gotta be in every book, but c'mon, guys! You don't see Marvel having a bunch of events without Wolverine, do you?

Well on the upside it does have Scourge in it. And Kup. Maybe they figured adding Grimlock would be too much badassery for one book to handle.

To be fair, after Last Stand of the Wreckers, Grimlock is a loose thread. He might be insane. He might be traveling in space, looking for the other Dinobots.

Shockwave wrote:Well on the upside it does have Scourge in it. And Kup. Maybe they figured adding Grimlock would be too much badassery for one book to handle.

Probably. And I'm glad that the comics and the toys are somewhat synched up right now, even if it's just a coincidence. It's nice that someone can buy a Kup toy and go, "Damn, I wanna see more of this guy!" I don't know, I sort of wish more of the TF fiction was working like that these days. The movies are the only things that are doing that anymore, toys for the new shows come out like six months afterwards. The hell, Hasbro?

Onslaught Six wrote:To be fair, after Last Stand of the Wreckers, Grimlock is a loose thread. He might be insane. He might be traveling in space, looking for the other Dinobots.

He might be traveling in time, leaping from life to life, and hoping each time that the next leap...will be the leap home? I don't know why that popped into my head, but I'd be down for that series.

I do not mind getting new iterations of older characters. But, I want the toys to look like the modern comics in some cases, (including Kup's and Blurr's).


Grimlock is accounted for in "Last Stand of the Wreckers". He got stuffed into Shockwave's luggage before leaving Garrus 9.

I can see leaving Grimlock out of "Last Stand of the Wreckers". If they put him in, comment threads would have been hijacked by Gee-Wunners complaining that "Grimlock would never act this way towards his follow Autobots OMFG!! and other such idiocy.


Dom
-would be okay not seeing some of the main '84/'85 cast again if it means getting better comics.

Oh, wait, really? So Shockwave is dragging Grimlock around with him, then?

I guess that solves that. Now, I wonder when the two are going to pop up again...

And I'm all for Grimlock being absent during it; him showing up definitely would have changed the whole perspective of the thing, I think. I can maybe see Grimlock being involved in a new incarnation of the Wreckers, though--I'm thinking an Earthforce homage. With Sunstreaker and Ironhide and some other guys who've been dead for a bit. (In fact, them fighting Shockwave would be a perfect setup.)

There is a scene where Overlord is seeing Shockwave off. While they are talking, it is brought up that Shockwave took Grimlock with him. The real reason is pretty obvious, given what happens to every other Autobot on Garrus 9 aside from Fortress Maximus and a few of the Wreckers. In context, it is presumably because Shockwave is still kind of honked off about the events of "Spotlight", (which is kind of ironic considering....)

And I'm all for Grimlock being absent during it; him showing up definitely would have changed the whole perspective of the thing,

Never mind changing the perspective of the story. Can you imagine the news board posts?

Typical toyhack: And. *then*, the Wreckers go ahead and do some stupid thing with the computer that nobody cares about instead of trying to save their friend Grimlock. Fuck. LSotW sucks so bad. That hack Roche only uses ONE MAIN CHARACTER and then has the other characters running away from him like douches. Oh yeah, really good writing there.

You know I am right about this.

an Earthforce homage

No. Just....no. Please, by all that is right with the hobby right now, no.

Much of the "Earthforce" run was garbage. Have you actually read those? "Oh no, Slag is in heat and there are no female Cybertronians around!" "Look, Wheeljack and the other Autobots are retarded and managed to get locked out of their house!" "Wow, polar bears are awesome!"

Yeah, there were some good points in "Earthforce". But, the run as a whole was pretty bad.


Dom
-has the black and white reprints due as much to lingering completist inclinations as anything else.

The funniest thing about Earthforce was that it was surely meant to be a "return to the roots" after the nutty turns Marvel G1 took, with some Autobot cars truckin' around recognisable cityscapes... But then in comes Grimlock, all robot dinosaur and attitude. Doesn't really fit, in my opinion. But Furman is as Furman does. And CAN HE DO ANY LESS??