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Dominic wrote:I always assumed the virus from BMac was deployed sneaky-like.
Sure. But unless he could somehow hit the entire population of the planet at once, and take them out quickly, the symptoms of the virus would start showing up here and there and any competent government is going to quarantine the areas. Even if that didn't happen, how did Megatron manufacture the first Vehicons? Did he go out into the streets by himself and drag a few virus victims to his lab and rebuild them? The Vehicons are all identical, suggesting mass production (which we do in fact see in Beast Machines). How did Megatron build those production plants by himself in order to build the Vehicons to take out survivors?
Now it's possible that he had help doing this, which he later disposed of. I think that was supposed to be Cryotek's backstory, but that's a toy bio retcon, and nothing that was ever addressed on the show itself.
And, there is nothing to say that Megatron did not have to hunt down, (using Vehicons), random survivors.
We actually saw that, in Nightscream's flashbacks. So that clearly happened.
I actually meant that between the two plans I would have gone the BM route. Hm... let's see... steal highly valued Maximal artifact and get hunted down in some crazy scheme to maybe find energon orrrrr... release a virus that will disable the planet's population while unleashing a secret army of drones to hunt down the few survivors effectively making you absolute ruler of the planet. hmmm... yeah tough call, but I'd personally go with plan B, effectively skipping the BW altogether.
Shock-Trek has a point. If nothing else, anything that avoids time-travle is probably better than something that involves time-travel.
I assumed that the virus travelled quickly. The factories likely existed before hand. Cybertron had an industrial base. Retro-fitting a factory to produce Vehicons would not have been too out of bounds. Megatron may have done this before releasing the virus. And, even if he waited, he would have been able to put in a solid day's work on this, as there would be few enough survivors to distract him. (And, each drone he completed would make the work easier.)
Dominic wrote:Shock-Trek has a point. If nothing else, anything that avoids time-travle is probably better than something that involves time-travel.
I assumed that the virus travelled quickly. The factories likely existed before hand. Cybertron had an industrial base. Retro-fitting a factory to produce Vehicons would not have been too out of bounds. Megatron may have done this before releasing the virus. And, even if he waited, he would have been able to put in a solid day's work on this, as there would be few enough survivors to distract him. (And, each drone he completed would make the work easier.)
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I have a hard time believing that a virus could travel so quickly that it could incapacitate an entire planet so fast that they couldn't even mount a defense.
The factories probably did exist beforehand, but they'd have to be retooled to produce the Vehicons. Megatron wasn't going to do that all by himself. I'm thinking at this point that he must have recruited help to do what he did. He had to develop a virus that would incapacitate a planet but not kill, hide the lab where the work was done, deploy the virus, design his Vehicons and retrofit a factory or two to produce them from the fallen Transformers. That's a tall order for one bot.
On a world where everything is mechanical and computer based I have no trouble believing that it could happen. Look at viruses that infect the internet. Everything's so interconnected that it winds up being instantaneous. Then there's the issue of him creating the countervirus and taking it prior to deployment so as not to be affected by it himself. I also got the impression that he had assistant drones that were working on the designs and manufacturing process (similar to the ones we see assembling the Optimus body).
On prehistoric Earth with nothing but the wreckage of their own ship to work with, Tarantulus built an entire underground railroad with no help. These guys are industrious! Now imagine what Megatron could do on Cybertron with access to a planet's worth of technology.
On prehistoric Earth with nothing but the wreckage of their own ship to work with, Tarantulus built an entire underground railroad with no help. These guys are industrious! Now imagine what Megatron could do on Cybertron with access to a planet's worth of technology.
Sure he did... and that's always been a little tough to believe as well. How did he lay all of that underwater railing by himself?
Maybe this should be renamed the "things that are tough to believe in BW and BM" thread
Tarantulas was a spider, how did he even find the Nemesis underwater to begin with? And then there is as Mako pointed out the tracks.
I always had the impression that Megatron had drones building things for him, again like the diagnostic drone that Tankor took over. Those seemed to have some autonomous intelligence but no spark and they seemed capable of designing and building things quickly. We also saw at least three of those working on the "Optimus" body at the end and that doesn't even include the one his spark was inhabiting.
Shockwave wrote:Maybe this should be renamed the "things that are tough to believe in BW and BM" thread
Tarantulas was a spider, how did he even find the Nemesis underwater to begin with? And then there is as Mako pointed out the tracks.
I always had the impression that Megatron had drones building things for him, again like the diagnostic drone that Tankor took over. Those seemed to have some autonomous intelligence but no spark and they seemed capable of designing and building things quickly. We also saw at least three of those working on the "Optimus" body at the end and that doesn't even include the one his spark was inhabiting.
True, and Tarantulus has his little spider drone/flashlight things crawling around helping him out. Maybe they built the track for him.
As for the location of the Nemesis, he's smart enough to have worked out where they are on Earth, and where the ship might have crashed. After that, it's just a question of finding a way to locate it and hoping Megatron didn't go looking first.
