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Onslaught Six wrote:It's like one big Victory parody.

Directly, even! Gigatron is pretty blatantly Deathsaurus, with Sky-Byte and the Predacons borrowing heavily from Goryu and the Dinoforce.

Car Robots is basically the Carranger of Transformers. It's not meant to be taken seriously because it's laughing *with* us at all the stupid stuff we already laugh at about Transformers. It's all the self-parody bits of Animated before Animated tried to make it all cynical and cool.

Sparky Prime wrote: I'm voting for the characters I would like to see win. And that's that.

Best way to do it.

Mako Crab wrote:

Sparky Prime wrote: I'm voting for the characters I would like to see win. And that's that.

Best way to do it.

Here here!

BWprowl wrote:

Onslaught Six wrote:It's like one big Victory parody.

Directly, even! Gigatron is pretty blatantly Deathsaurus, with Sky-Byte and the Predacons borrowing heavily from Goryu and the Dinoforce.

Car Robots is basically the Carranger of Transformers. It's not meant to be taken seriously because it's laughing *with* us at all the stupid stuff we already laugh at about Transformers. It's all the self-parody bits of Animated before Animated tried to make it all cynical and cool.

Yes! You can't tell me that "Left Shoulder Thrust!" wasn't done without SOMEBODY at some point going, "Why is a giant robot announcing that he's ramming his shoulder into a guy? That's ridiculous and hilarious." (Honestly, though, that joke is seriously incomplete without "Right Shoulder Ramjet!" going after. Pity we made that up.)

Car Robots is a loving parody. It knows it's ridiculous and goofy, and still manages to have totally badass things like Scourge controlling Fortress Maximus. (Hell, even Scourge's origin is goofy! He scans an oil tanker truck and Fire Convoy at the same time and somehow becomes a G2 Laser Prime repaint? The fact that their faction logos are just 'upside down G2 Autobot logos' because of Scourge's moulding, and they just took that and ran with it, is great.)

Oh man, the attack call outs. I friggin love those things. One of the funniest parts of RID for me.

And, the real inductees have been announced.

Furman and Latta.

I can think of plenty of more worthy names that could go in there instead of Furman. Seriously. His longevity with the franchise is based as much on him keeping a seat warm as it is on anything else.

As for Latta, well, there are plenty of jokes to be made. "Great, one more thing he will be late for." "Let's all raise a glass in Latta's honour." Uh, "Along with being inducted in to the TF Hall of Fame, 2012 marks ~20 years since Chris Latta has had a drink. Atta boy Chris!"

What, surely not too soon?


Edit:

Latta's induction is one more reason to vote for Wheeljack, (who Latta provided the original voice for).

Just think, this will be one more time that Latta is not around to provide the voice of a character! (Explanation: According to more than one account, Chris Latta was frequently absent/late from recording sessions because he was either sleeping off a binge, often in a drunk tank. Some say that this played a role in Wheeljack being killed, even after being storyboarded to survive.)

And, on a personal note, I am wondering if Hasbro will include movie Wheeljack in the display. (Considering how scarce that toy is, the display could be a new ThunderGate. And, c'mon, who does not want that?)


Dom
-actually has nothing against Latta's induction, but the jokes are too good to pass up.

Dominic wrote:I can think of plenty of more worthy names that could go in there instead of Furman. Seriously. His longevity with the franchise is based as much on him keeping a seat warm as it is on anything else.

Such as...? Personally I think Furman's name belongs there. He's made plenty of significant contributions to the franchise over the years.

Jim Shooter, Rob Tokar, Geoff Senior, Andrew Wildman.... Hell, even Dan Abnett who at least has some credibility outside the franchise.

Furman has left much to be desired in the last 10 years. Yeah, he has longevity.


Dom

But, this is not a matter of quality, it's quantity and impact on the overall franchise as a result. As such, none of the names you've mentioned (with the possible exception of Geoff Senior) have had anywhere near the same impact on the franchise as a whole. Whether you like Furman's contributions or not is irrelevant, the man has had an impact and a significant one at that. And Abnett's credibility within the franchise is questionable at best, having written Infestation, arguably one of the worst entries of the franchise, even compared to Furman's work. Abnett's credibility outside the franchise isn't something that should qualify him for entry into the Hall of Fame for THIS franchise.

Shockwave
-Now, the HoFs from OTHER franchises that Abnett's written for, sure. But not this one.

Point taken on Abnett.

But...

Shooter: helped establish and build the IP side of the franchise
Tokar: edited a significant, and still fondly remembered, run of the comics *and* introduced Simon "can do no wrong no matter how shitty his work" Furman to the US.
Wildman: been around as long as Furman, and has similar claims to fame and longevity.

I can see Furman's legitimate contributions. And, he is not being pushed as hard as he once was, (thankfully). But, he still gets more cred than he should.