On a Mission

[Mako Crab]

...If anyone can recommend a fighting game with *no* cheesecake, I'd love to see it. If only for the novelty.

Bushido Blade?
http://bushidoblade.co.uk/wp/

[Onslaught Six]

...If anyone can recommend a fighting game with *no* cheesecake, I'd love to see it. If only for the novelty. I think Bugi and that Saint Seiya game are the only ones I can think of that I own. Even Hokuto no Ken has a special finisher that leaves the one woman totally nekkid, and Bloody Roar has a bunnygirl who fights in a nurse's outfit, and Street Fighter's been all about the panty shots since Day 2. Maybe Star Gladiator? Meh. It's too tempting and easy for the 99% male design teams to put something in there they find sexy. Dorks.

I'm playing through Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 1 right now. It's pretty fun. Not a whole lot of depth there, but there's a couple cool moves and the non-story modes let you customize their specials and stuff. And no chicks, because DBZ doesn't have any chicks that can fight! Ah ha ha ha ha.

Actually I think a couple of the Androids are unlockable, but still, even their designs are pretty conservative.

[Gomess]

I hadn't thought of Bushido Blade. I guess I don't really consider it a 'fighting game'. It is very unique, after all.

Heh, I love how Videl is meant to be the GREATEST NON-SAIYAN-OR-CYBORG FIGHTER ON ALL PLANET EARTH, but it doesn't *matter* because every. other. character. is. a. saiyan. or. cyborg. It's all relative, so she may as well just be Some Girl Who Can't Shoot Lasers. Sigh!

[BWprowl]

Gomess, I'ma have to check out all those games you mentioned, since I WILL NOT STAND for there being fighting games out there that I have not heard of.

At your own risk! The Hokuto no Ken and Saint Seiya games are naturally more enjoyable if you like their respective anime (rather than manga), but the latter was just Dimps' prototype for their later DBZ fighters.

Source material isn't too big a deal to me, I'm in this primarily for the game (if my gameplay-heavy analyses of the ladies hadn't already tipped you off to that). Plus it can go either way. Melty Blood was the entire reason I checked out Tsukihime in the first place, and I'm fervently looking for an English version of the original Umineko games to check out, after playing Ougon Musou Kyoku.

At least Arcana Heart had an interesting fighting system and remotely interesting characters, even if they all smacked of design-by-committee moe.

Man, if they'd just had some slightly more bearable designs... If they remade Fighter's History with that system I'd buy it in a snap. =p

See, this is how I know I've played too many goddamn fighting games. I completely forgot to put Ryoko from Fighter's History on my list!

I generally hate it when people lambaste SoulCalibur for it's treatment of the ladies, when it exploits the guys just as much, if not more.

Thing about that is, aaaawful as it might sound to our modern Seth MacFarlane sensibilities, sexually exploiting women IS worse. It's the same as why racism is more offensive to non-whites than whites. As long as men remain the more influential gender in media, there's a double standard which means they basically have no right to be offended by misrepresentation. They're in charge. And Soulcalibur won't be as fetishising of men as at is of women until at least five more male characters have giant swinging cocks in skintight-material-that-didn't-exist-in-the-16th-century, or intro poses that linger on their asses.

At least you imply that you are counting Voldo here. I dunno, have you seen newcoming Dampierre? That guy wears an impossible-spandex bodysuit, but he's also totally awesome, so. I also think there's something to be said about Namco introducing Hilde, who wears full knight armor... in the game that introduced the ability to smash you opponent's clothes off. *sigh*

...If anyone can recommend a fighting game with *no* cheesecake, I'd love to see it. If only for the novelty. I think Bugi and that Saint Seiya game are the only ones I can think of that I own. Even Hokuto no Ken has a special finisher that leaves the one woman totally nekkid, and Bloody Roar has a bunnygirl who fights in a nurse's outfit, and Street Fighter's been all about the panty shots since Day 2. Maybe Star Gladiator? Meh. It's too tempting and easy for the 99% male design teams to put something in there they find sexy. Dorks.

Man, I'm actually good as Alice too... Anyway, this request got me thinking. The Tobal games are pretty low on fanservice, if I recall. There's also Street Fighter 1, of course, but frankly that plays worse than Star Gladiator (I mainly enjoy it for historical value). One interesting one worth a look is Touhou Hisoutensoku aka Unthinkable Natural Law, the third Touhou fighter. It's got an all-female cast, to be sure, but they're all very fully clothed, and besides, rendered as tiny Twilight Frontier chibi-midget-people. Plus it's got its awesome dakimakura/fighter-hybrid gameplay going on, so that's worth a plug. But I guess that could be subjective, and with my mission firmly in mind, I think I may have finally found you a fully fanservice-free fighting game...



Honestly, it was only after going to the trouble of downloading and screencapping Gundam Wing Endless Duel that I realized that Cyberbots would work here as well.

[Gomess]

Oh yeah, Tobal played pretty darn good, I always like it when fighters have more complex grappling systems. It even had a heavyweight woman, which is always a plus with me. Seriously, it annoys me no end that only men get to have truly diverse body types and ages in fighting games. The main flaw with Tobal though is that I can't *stand* Toriyama's style; aesthetics are way too important to me. =/

Still waiting on a fighting game with a TRUE wrestler, whose basic strikes are different grapple types like a Yuke's wrestling game, rather than everyone else's punches and kicks. Maybe one day I'll get to design them myself! *sparkly dream eyes*

...I dunno man, Mercurius is asking for an upskirt shot there.

And seriously, is Star Gladiator just awful?? I had to beat the game just pressing the same attack button every 2 seconds. I couldn't string a single combo together. I'VE *COMPLETED* GUILTY GEAR'S SURVIVAL MODE FOR GOODNESS' SAKE and.. like.. Bugi and Tekken 2, which are arguably "clunky" like Star Gladiator. But at least they work!

[Onslaught Six]

I hadn't thought of Bushido Blade. I guess I don't really consider it a 'fighting game'. It is very unique, after all.

Heh, I love how Videl is meant to be the GREATEST NON-SAIYAN-OR-CYBORG FIGHTER ON ALL PLANET EARTH, but it doesn't *matter* because every. other. character. is. a. saiyan. or. cyborg. It's all relative, so she may as well just be Some Girl Who Can't Shoot Lasers. Sigh!

Bullshit, Krillin's supposed to be. Yamcha even says so during the Buu arc, I think.

[Gomess]

Bullshit, Krillin's supposed to be. Yamcha even says so during the Buu arc, I think.

Yeah yeah, but Kuririn can shoot lasers. Discs. Whatever. And he's like, what, a junior Buddhist monk trained alongside Goku from childhood? So he's got an unfair advantage. What I meant was that Videl's supposed to be a *relatively* normal person, just a fantastic martial artist (unlike her Count Dante-inspired shyster dad). But she ends up seeming worthless compared to the rest of the series' daftly overpowered same-eyed muscleheads.

Can you tell I don't like DBZ? =/ It's a shame, too, 'cos I thought the original Dragon Ball [No Letter] was ton of fun when I saw it in Portugal as a kid. I love anything Journey to the West-inspired, but it was nifty in its own right, with vibrant characters and exciting set-pieces. Then as soon as the Nappa fight was over I started thinking whaaaat wennnnnt wronnnngggggg~ D=

Saint Seiya will always be *my* shounen anime. At least they run up stairs to break up the HNNNNGGGGG I'M CHARGING MY POWERRRRRR sequences.


EDIT: STILL CAN'T PLAY STAR GLADIATOR WHAT AM I DOING WRONG SOMEONE HALP FOR LOVE OF GAHD

[Shockwave]

I've been trying to see how far I could on escalation on WFC the last few nights. Last night I got to wave 15 and almost made it to 16 when a tank showed up. I didn't see it and it shot me with the nucleon cannon and that was it. Might try again tonight.

[Onslaught Six]

Bullshit, Krillin's supposed to be. Yamcha even says so during the Buu arc, I think.

Yeah yeah, but Kuririn can shoot lasers. Discs. Whatever. And he's like, what, a junior Buddhist monk trained alongside Goku from childhood? So he's got an unfair advantage. What I meant was that Videl's supposed to be a *relatively* normal person, just a fantastic martial artist (unlike her Count Dante-inspired shyster dad). But she ends up seeming worthless compared to the rest of the series' daftly overpowered same-eyed muscleheads.

Can you tell I don't like DBZ? =/ It's a shame, too, 'cos I thought the original Dragon Ball [No Letter] was ton of fun when I saw it in Portugal as a kid. I love anything Journey to the West-inspired, but it was nifty in its own right, with vibrant characters and exciting set-pieces. Then as soon as the Nappa fight was over I started thinking whaaaat wennnnnt wronnnngggggg~ D=

Saint Seiya will always be *my* shounen anime. At least they run up stairs to break up the HNNNNGGGGG I'M CHARGING MY POWERRRRRR sequences.

I do love me some Saint Seiya. And the original DB is still as classic as ever. I was actually watching through the Tien tournament arc for a bit there.

[Gomess]

the original DB is still as classic as ever.

As a matter of fact, it is.

I'm gratified you like the original DB, because EVERY DBZ fan I know (admittedly, that's only like 3 people) haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate the original series. They think it's too "kiddy". -____-

Saint Seiya's got one of those theme songs I just can't NOT know all the words to. I posted that Saint Transformers video ages ago, right?