Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

[Dominic]

Issue 86:
This is my second "breather" issue. Furman continues to make this book feel like it follows from the original series in both tone and context, despite the 20+ year gap (both in real and story terms). Furman takes the concept of irresponsiblity, (which Kup mentioned in issue 81) and makes it the center of this issue while picking up old plot threads.

-Thunderwing's remains are stolen.
-The consequences of Grimlock's use of Nucleon on other robots are shown.
-Grimlock's capricousness is mentioned on page. The concept that was used for laughs in the black and white "Making Tracks" is used in a more serious way here in a conversation between Wheeljack and Red Alert.
-The humans rightly call out Prime for his role in how badly things have gone. (And, the Autobots were pretty negligent.)
-Prime's choice with Ratchet and Megatron back in 1990 likely played a role in the destruction of all of Megatron's drones, including several Autobots. (I am guessing that they were seen as too dangerous to keep around given Megatron's modifications. Arguably, had Prime been more ruthless in '91, the last few issue's worth of trouble would have been avoided.)

On a continuity note, more than a few Autobots have been back-written as being "off-line" and stored on the Ark. This is not the first time that something like this has happened. But, it is the first time that it happened without the excuse of "confusion between US/UK comics". This is a minor detail, but one likely to be the subject of much discussion on forums.

Grade: A

Speaking of guys getting forgotten, any word on how muhc of the UK comics are going to be incorporated? Despite being billed as following from the US only, some UK plot elements have turned up. Any word on if Professor Morris will be making an appearance? (Just an idle question.)

Dom
-really loving this book.

[Onslaught Six]

I'm not sure, but Furman may have specifically stated that the UK comics "don't count" the same way G2 doesn't. I'll have to look it up, though.

[Tigermegatron]

I'm not sure, but Furman may have specifically stated that the UK comics "don't count" the same way G2 doesn't. I'll have to look it up, though.

UK must count,because the USA Marvel G-1 TF Comics never had Kup,hotrod & ultra Magnus in them

The UK Marvel TF G-1 comics & IDW'S Regeneration both have Kup,Hotrod & Ultra magnus in them. so their is some UK continuity being done for re-generation.

[Shockwave]

Then how were they on the Moon in issues 49-50? And how was Kup on the Ark about to shoot Ratchet/Megatron in issue 70?

[andersonh1]

Shockwave is right, Kup and Hot Rod were pretty major characters in the later US Marvel Transformers comics.

[Onslaught Six]

The wording on my post is everything--I still can't find the source, but I believe Furman's stance is that the UK run and G2, as printed, do not occur in RegenOne continuity--but certain events from both DID occur, and Furman is (purposely?) being vague about which bits did and didn't so he can play with them freely.

It's actually not unlike how DC is handling the New 52, and it angers me there because it's using that excuse for (at least) the last 30 years of continuity for an entire line of books, whereas RegenOne is a single book that carries on from, at best, three separate comics.

That make any sense? It's not unlike how the UK's Future Timeline assumes that "some version" of TFTM happened, but not necessarily everything that happened in the movie is true for that continuity.

[Shockwave]

No I get that, but that doesn't automatically wipe out all the movie characters like Deathy implied. Those characters were there, not because they were showing a future timeline but because they were "just there" already.

[Tigermegatron]

Ultra Magnus never appeared in the Marvel TF G-1 comics series. So having Ultra Magnus in IDW'S Regeneration's comics means it's also using Marvel UK TF G-1 comics continuity.

[Onslaught Six]

Ultra Magnus never appeared in the Marvel TF G-1 comics series. So having Ultra Magnus in IDW'S Regeneration's comics means it's also using Marvel UK TF G-1 comics continuity.

Deathy does, somewhat, have a point here, but again--it does not necessarily mean that the UK comics, as originally presented, took place--which is my point. Some version of them certainly did--Magnus and the Wreckers simply existing proves that--but if I'm not wrong there are at least one or two contradictions already that prevent them from being used wholesale.

[Shockwave]

Yeah, I'm with O6 on this one. Just because Magnus is there now and wasn't in the US run doesn't mean that the character didn't exist in that continuity, just that we didn't see him. I mean, they could only fit in so many characters and past a certain point, you gotta start leaving characters out.