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I'm with Scourge. I wouldn't have said his defining trait was being a helicopter-bot.

I liked the guy, though I hardly had time to get really attached to him. I was pulling him out as an example since he's the first to die, not counting Skyquake and the other short-timers from the first issue. Not that I wouldn't have been interested in seeing what kind of character Skyquake was, but he had even less time than Rotorstorm.

I think we have a different view of characters though. I love seeing all these new guys turn up, along with old characters that never got much page time. They're all a nearly blank slate to watch grow and develop. At least until Overlord kills them.

Oh yeah, the other thing I meant to mention...

Dominic wrote:I only get annoyed when they kill characters off just to show how "hard-core" the story is, of for some kind of cheap shock value.

Well, yeah. But since the Wreckers are supposed to specialize in missions that would be suicide for any other Autobot team, then you have to have some of them killed off every now and again. If they all survived every mission, then there's no sense of danger. It's like the last issue of "Squadron Supreme". Gruenwald didn't really want to kill off a slew of characters there, but he felt that it was necessary to show the stakes the two teams were fighting for, their commitment to said fight, and exactly how dangerous superhuman fights are.

I was not making that complaint about "Wreckers".

The thing with Rotorstorm is that even the characterization he got was easily replacable. I am unsure how many people would be that attached to the character after only 2 issues.

Dom

Dominic wrote:I was not making that complaint about "Wreckers".

The thing with Rotorstorm is that even the characterization he got was easily replacable. I am unsure how many people would be that attached to the character after only 2 issues.

Dom

*raises hand* Yeah, I liked him too. It helped that his line right before his death was pretty damn funny. You'd be surprised how endearing a character can become in only a short time, Dom. Ask O6 and I about Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist sometime. You only spend two episodes with her, and her death hits *hard* (granted, a lot of that is because of the circumstances of it, but still).

The whole point of killing the cute kid and her dog in "Full Metal Alchemist" was to show how ruthless her father was in the fact of the "can't get something for nothing" rule of alchemy. She and the dog were written to be nice specifically to show how ruthless the father was.

I cannot see getting attached to the character beyond there use in a story. In some cases, I would prefer to see a character killed off than have them become useless or diminished. (Victoria Hand in "Dark Avengers" is a good example of this. I hope she is dead by the end of "The Siege" as I would rather not see her badly written by someone later.)


Dom
-Nina was a pretty stock cute kid character.

Of course she was. But part of you doesn't expect what's coming to her--especially when other stock anime kid characters (like the granddaughters from Rurouni Kenshin, to use a quick example) exist for the entire series without anything bad happening to them. Then once you know what happens, it just makes rewatching those episodes all the more heartwrenching.

This all goes back to your screwy views on fiction, though, and I don't think we have anybody left to scare off.

I dunno. I bet I could make you feel pretty unsafe.

I know I have made Scourge feel unclean, and am pretty sure I have had the same effect on JT.


Dom
-had a dream about you last night.

Okay, now I am scared.

You were the Coppertone girl.

I was the dog.

You had diarrhea.

BWprowl wrote:

Dominic wrote:I was not making that complaint about "Wreckers".

The thing with Rotorstorm is that even the characterization he got was easily replacable. I am unsure how many people would be that attached to the character after only 2 issues.

Dom

*raises hand* Yeah, I liked him too. It helped that his line right before his death was pretty damn funny. You'd be surprised how endearing a character can become in only a short time, Dom.

That's one of the main selling points of the series: how well Roche and Roberts have managed to make the characters likeable in just a few short issues. People do get attached to them, but then that's the point, so we're rooting for them to survive. And it gives any deaths some weight they wouldn't otherwise have.