TF Views

Onslaught Six wrote:

138 Scourge wrote:Um...I'm fine with that, really. I kinda like Prime's motley band of screwups. Which makes me wonder what Prowl's doing there.

Clearly you missed the bit from ABTF. Prowl never finished ninja training.

Nah, I caught that. I was more sayin', "I'd like to see what Prowl did to earn his place there."

Hey, has it been said...Did Sentinel Prime assign this particular crew to Optimus? "Here, washout, hang out with more losers like yourself" or like that.

That seems unlikely. Prime, maybe, but not Bumblebee and Bulkhead--because, remember, Sentinel didn't recognize them.

Onslaught Six wrote:That seems unlikely. Prime, maybe, but not Bumblebee and Bulkhead--because, remember, Sentinel didn't recognize them.

Or at least pretended not to know them, on account of what a huge jerk he is. I'd like to think that, if it were me, I'd remember the two idiots that dropped a building on me in boot camp.

BWprowl wrote:Or at least pretended not to know them, on account of what a huge jerk he is. I'd like to think that, if it were me, I'd remember the two idiots that dropped a building on me in boot camp.

Well they did drop a building on his head. He probably don't brain so good no more.

Rampage01 wrote:

BWprowl wrote:Or at least pretended not to know them, on account of what a huge jerk he is. I'd like to think that, if it were me, I'd remember the two idiots that dropped a building on me in boot camp.

Well they did drop a building on his head. He probably don't brain so good no more.

Y'know, I'd say that explains a lot about him, except he was like that pre-building, too. Still, well-phrased, my good man, well-phrased.

I think Sentinel was just being a dick.

Onslaught Six wrote:'You guys?' What, you aren't from there, too? Or has whichever of your alter egos slipped onto your main account?

Well, since I wasn't describing myself being one of chaps who couldn't bend with the wind, it made no sense for me to lump myself into that grouping.

Anyway, it actually stood for, y'know, 'Ben's' World of Transformers. The BeesWus TeeEff thing is a coincidence. Or an intentional pun.

What's it like to be so wrong? The BWTF meaning was changed to "Ben's World of TransFormers" when Ben moved to the Figures.com server around October of 2001, he posted as much.

And Primal being an Important Guy is somewhat debatable when you take into the account that he A) Has a Matrix, B) Got chosen by the Oracle and C) Even if you don't think he has a Matrix, he eventually gets one anyway in TFU, so nyaah.

He didn't originally have the matrix, he wasn't chosen by the Oracle until the events of time had unfolded to display him a great leader, and if we're citing storylines from TFU we might as well just start citing RID as chief canon as well.

onslaught86 wrote:The Ben's World thing was a retcon, it originally 'did' stand for Beast Wars Trans Formers. Mmyeah.

Thank you, good call on using "retcon".

138 Scourge wrote:Um...I'm fine with that, really. I kinda like Prime's motley band of screwups. Which makes me wonder what Prowl's doing there.

Character defect in him, I assume.

BWprowl wrote:

Onslaught Six wrote:

138 Scourge wrote:Um...I'm fine with that, really. I kinda like Prime's motley band of screwups. Which makes me wonder what Prowl's doing there.

Clearly you missed the bit from ABTF. Prowl never finished ninja training.

This has me looking forward to Oil Slick's upcoming appearance in the comics. According to his bio, Slick and Prowl trained together, so that could potentially bring out some more character development in ol' Johnny Bravo.

Seems like on the bio cards, half the figures in the line trained with Prowl in Circuit-Fu. I had noticed this cliche when I bought back to back Oil Slick and Jazz... HOLY SHIT! Prowl is Snake Eyes! Half of everybody out there's a goddamn ninja and everybody knows him in one way or the other!

Dominic wrote:O am not complaining about the change in "Animated". I am simply saying that "Animated" Prime is different from the more heroic persona of G1 Prime. (In G1, Prime got on the Ark as the mission was that important, an then they crashed the ship on the planet that would become Earth.)

And I'm saying it's just a parallel worlds/elseworlds type of situation. Different in details, yet merely an alternate facet of the same underlying person is what we're supposed to glean.

JediTricks wrote:Seems like on the bio cards, half the figures in the line trained with Prowl in Circuit-Fu. I had noticed this cliche when I bought back to back Oil Slick and Jazz... HOLY SHIT! Prowl is Snake Eyes! Half of everybody out there's a goddamn ninja and everybody knows him in one way or the other!

I can't believe I didn't think of this.

Really, the cards drive me crazy on this point, because they INSIST on saying that Prowl and Jazz's martial art is Circuit-Su, when they went with Metallikato in the show. I can see it being an early-production miscommunication in Prowl's case, but they easily could've corrected it for Jazz and Oil Slick. Of course, they could just be trying to maintain continuity between the card bios, which I don't really see the point of, in this case...

At least on the show, Jazz and Prowl hadn't met before the Elite Guard episodes. They may have trained in the same style, but not together.

Heh. I did think it was kinda funny that there were Metallikato Autobots now.

Jazz's bio card also lists him as being curious about human culture, when the cartoon contradicts this.

I suppose there are 2 "Animated" contexts now.

Dom