The modern comics universe has had such a different take on G1, one that's significantly represented by the Generations toys, so they share a forum. A modern take on a Real Cybertronian Hero. Currently starring Generations toys, IDW "The Transformers" comics, MTMTE, TF vs GI Joe, and Windblade. Oh wait, and now Skybound, wheee!
Sparky Prime wrote:Yeah, like I've said, I doubt they could do Trypticon exactly like they did in WFC. High Moon Studio's clearly took some liberties with characters ability to transform seeing how several of the toys have had to cheat a bit for their transformations to work, like having extra fake tires to complete the look of the robot mode. I was just using that design to illustrate that Trypticon doesn't have to have a humanoid form to have a ton of articulation.
Well, that's true enough, Trypticon is better for being a dino robot that can move, not a dino that becomes a humanoid robot.
Well there are some beast Autobots as well, but I totally agree with your point. It would take away from Trypticon's uniqueness if they gave him a humanoid form.
If you think about it, having a GIANT humanoid fight another GIANT humanoid is boring, it's just a wrestling match; yet having a GIANT humanoid fight a GIANT dinosaur is more compelling as it lets them each exercise specific advantages and disadvantages the other doesn't have. The giant dinosaur is seen as an ultimate killing machine, it doesn't need arms to manipulate controls or a humanoid face to convey friendly emotions, it just needs powerful jaws to crush and huge feet to stomp and a massive tail to thrash - a colossal dinosaur robot is the ultimate Decepticon in that way, it's focused on being a big killer first and foremost.
The "majority" are his personal beliefs.
Yeah, that was a rhetorical question.
I know, just thought it needed saying anyway.
See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
JediTricks wrote:]Rocket base mode had an "inside"? You mean inside the track ring, right? Because the base itself didn't have an interior, there really wasn't much to it.
Yep, I was thinking of the rocket launch pad and the track ring as parts of the same ground structure as opposed to the two vehicles, the tank and the rocket. The launch pad was the feet, the backpack and a few of the yellow leg pieces I think.
Do you still have Omega? That track took up less space than you remember, I think 2.5' across on the long end and a foot the other way. He sure was kreoformed though, and only his arms could move.
I do still have the figure. Haven't pulled him out of the cabinet and transformed him in a long time though. I'm thinking if they scaled up the figure to make a Titan sized version that the track would be much larger than it is on the original figure. It depends how they engineer the transformation I guess.
The MTMTE Ark space ship was oval shaped & almost flat as a pancake minus any wings,So Having a Titan TFA or MTME Adult themed high sculpted Omega Supreme transform into the Ark would look like garbage & it would basically be what the majority of TF fans hate A SHELL-FORMER---Similar in vein to what the recent huge SW Cross-overs Darth vader/anakin Skywalker that transforms into those 2 huge SW space ships.
I've seen all the WFC/FOC TF video games images & WFC Omega supreme video game alt mode looks like complete garbage. it's looks like it's a satelite that is armed to fire large weapons or space station that is armed to fire large weapons. The alt mode IS NOT A SPACE SHIP. So creating a titan sized toy for WFC Omega supreme would look like garbage in alt mode. Sure the robot mode might look somewhat decent,but the majority would hate the alt mode.
The Majority of TF fans want the G-1 1985 Omega Supreme designs for a Titan sized toy. Due to it being the most memorable & iconic. just because the energon duo-bot omega supreme toy was horrible,Doesn't mean A G-1 titan sized Duo-bot will also be horrible. the main reason the energon version was so awful was due to the tonka play-school sculpted alt modes & how they combined to form the robot mode. IF HASBRO CREATES A SPACE SHUTTLE WITH BOOSTERS THAT COMBINES WITH A TANK IN SIMILAR COMBINE FASHION TO 1988 Overlord---THIS toy will look awesome.
JediTricks wrote:If you think about it, having a GIANT humanoid fight another GIANT humanoid is boring, it's just a wrestling match; yet having a GIANT humanoid fight a GIANT dinosaur is more compelling as it lets them each exercise specific advantages and disadvantages the other doesn't have. The giant dinosaur is seen as an ultimate killing machine, it doesn't need arms to manipulate controls or a humanoid face to convey friendly emotions, it just needs powerful jaws to crush and huge feet to stomp and a massive tail to thrash - a colossal dinosaur robot is the ultimate Decepticon in that way, it's focused on being a big killer first and foremost.
King Kong vs. T-Rex all over again.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
JediTricks wrote: Fort Max is the most boring design possible, there is nothing clever or interesting about his robot mode except that it's big and things pop out of it here and there. But the figure itself was never anything special to me, so it's certainly not something I'd want to return to.
You just described all 4 of the 1980's City-bots minus Omega who is techinally called a Base-bot.
Fort max,whether you like him or not is currently one of the most high in demand of all the 1980's city-bots toys on the secondary market.
The secondary market math is their,if OCD fans are willing to pay up to $2,000+for a MISB Fort Max,then the'd jump at the chance to pay $125 for a Newer Titan Fort Max that is more poseable in robot mode,with other alt modes that look more adult high sculpted/themed.
JediTricks wrote:If you think about it, having a GIANT humanoid fight another GIANT humanoid is boring, it's just a wrestling match; yet having a GIANT humanoid fight a GIANT dinosaur is more compelling as it lets them each exercise specific advantages and disadvantages the other doesn't have. The giant dinosaur is seen as an ultimate killing machine, it doesn't need arms to manipulate controls or a humanoid face to convey friendly emotions, it just needs powerful jaws to crush and huge feet to stomp and a massive tail to thrash - a colossal dinosaur robot is the ultimate Decepticon in that way, it's focused on being a big killer first and foremost.
King Kong vs. T-Rex all over again.
What was extremly boring watching those season 3 Trypticon & Metroplex fight was that Metroplex always won & trypticon always lost,they were fights easy to predict the winner. Due to Trypticon having short T-rex arms & not that much movement in his dino legs,he lost all the fights. Had Trypticon been able to transform into a humanoid mode,he would of had longer arms,longer legs,a waist joint,the fight scenes would have been less booring & less predictable. Since Trypticon lost every fight with metroplex,clearly his T-rex mode was no match for Metroplex's humanoid mode.
You can't use the G1 cartoon as a basis for, well, anything, because of how simplistic it was. (I would genuinely enjoy seeing a chart that catalogued every encounter between Autobots and Decepticons, or individual combiners, and see who won more regularly. I'd be willing to bet good money that the Autobots came out on top more often than not.)
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
Tigermegatron wrote:The MTMTE Ark space ship was oval shaped & almost flat as a pancake minus any wings,So Having a Titan TFA or MTME Adult themed high sculpted Omega Supreme transform into the Ark would look like garbage & it would basically be what the majority of TF fans hate A SHELL-FORMER---Similar in vein to what the recent huge SW Cross-overs Darth vader/anakin Skywalker that transforms into those 2 huge SW space ships.
Not sure why you think it would need to be a shell-former. The design they used for Omega Supreme in Animated clearly wasn't and if they were to make a figure like that they would undoubtedly use a bulkier design for the Ark than what the G1 cartoon had. Besides, the Star Wars figures you're talking about have to look more human proportioned to basically be robotic versions of those characters, unlike Omega who is supposed to be a big bulky robot. Speaking of Animated Omega Supreme, anyone ever see Hansime's "Re-Animated" version? This would make an awesome figure: http://hansime.deviantart.com/art/Re-An ... e-92673240
I would agree that WFC Omega Supreme's alt mode wouldn't make for a great toy though. It just doesn't look much like anything and has his arms coming out of it.
What was extremly boring watching those season 3 Trypticon & Metroplex fight was that Metroplex always won & trypticon always lost,they were fights easy to predict the winner. Due to Trypticon having short T-rex arms & not that much movement in his dino legs,he lost all the fights. Had Trypticon been able to transform into a humanoid mode,he would of had longer arms,longer legs,a waist joint,the fight scenes would have been less booring & less predictable. Since Trypticon lost every fight with metroplex,clearly his T-rex mode was no match for Metroplex's humanoid mode.
Metroplex always won was because he was the good guy, rather than anything to do with what form Trypticon has.
Onslaught Six wrote:You can't use the G1 cartoon as a basis for, well, anything, because of how simplistic it was. (I would genuinely enjoy seeing a chart that catalogued every encounter between Autobots and Decepticons, or individual combiners, and see who won more regularly. I'd be willing to bet good money that the Autobots came out on top more often than not.)
Trypticon & Metroplex only battle each other in 1980's cartoon.
Onslaught Six wrote:You can't use the G1 cartoon as a basis for, well, anything, because of how simplistic it was. (I would genuinely enjoy seeing a chart that catalogued every encounter between Autobots and Decepticons, or individual combiners, and see who won more regularly. I'd be willing to bet good money that the Autobots came out on top more often than not.)
Trypticon & Metroplex only battle each other in 1980's cartoon.
...I know. That's my point. We haven't seen them fight each other in any fiction that isn't betrothed to a 1980s cartoon mentality. For example, if they fought in IDW, who knows who would win? (Probably Metroplex, since he's pretty much the biggest TF there is in IDW, sans gods, but whatever.)
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
