Last Stand of the Wreckers discussion

[Dominic]

I am not saying this book is terrible or anything. And, I am biased against it by virtue of having really high expectations. But, this book so far has not wowed me. Granted, it is the best TF comic on the rack right now. But, it is not flooring me. Still, it is only halfway done.

Dom

[BWprowl]

Eh, I figured this wouldn't be your cup of tea Dom, as it's heavily character-based. On the other hand, Roche has show with his previous works that he can swing character development and well-orchestrated ideas in the same arc, so we'll see what the rest of the series has to offer. I'm particularly interested in what's going to happen with Guzzle and Kup.

Another thing I like is Roche not going for the obvious. It would have been way too easy to use Ironfist to turn this into a "never meet your heroes" sort of story, but the Wreckers are generally portrayed as being just as awesome as Ironfist expected them to be. Instead, the inner conflict comes about because Ironfist apparently never bothered to think about *why* the Wreckers had to be so hardcore.

Oh, and just because, I'm calling it now: They all die except for Ironfist. That's how I'd write it, anyway.

[Dominic]

I am guessing Ironfist is going to die. But, we shall see.

Like I said, this series is not terrible. I certainly do not hate it. (I am making a point of keeping my sub to it despite jumping to a new comic store, even allowing for some over-lap.) And, I am biased because Roche floored me with half a comic on his last outing. Maybe the sock-knocker-offer will be in the next few issues. That is entirely possible, and likely, given the structure of Roche's last two stories.

But, so far, I am not wowed by anything I read here.

Dom
-likely going to skip full reviews and just start reviewing with next issue.

[andersonh1]

Oh, and just because, I'm calling it now: They all die except for Ironfist. That's how I'd write it, anyway.

That would be awful. I hope that doesn't happen.

Then again, I hate it when anyone gets killed off in a comic. So I'm not going to be too happy, no matter who takes the dirt nap. Although watching the newbies die won't bother me as much as it would if Kup or the Jumpstarters get killed off.

[Dominic]

I only get annoyed when they kill characters off just to show how "hard-core" the story is, of for some kind of cheap shock value.

If the writer has a reason or plan to kill off a character, then I am fine with it.

I do not think Roche would kill of Kup after putting so much into building him up.

Why so attached to the Jumpstarters?


Dom

[andersonh1]

Why so attached to the Jumpstarters?

For the most basic of reasons: they were two of my favorite Transformers when I was a kid. Plus, they've had so little development in any Transformers fiction that I'd hate to see them killed off before actually getting the chance to shine.

[Dominic]

Have you read the old UK stuff? I cannot recall if they survived "Time Wars", but they definitely get a fair amount of page-time over maybe 2 or 3 years.

I am less concerned when writers kill of characters will little history just because there is less of a loss. They are easier to replace if the need arises.


Dom

[andersonh1]

Have you read the old UK stuff? I cannot recall if they survived "Time Wars", but they definitely get a fair amount of page-time over maybe 2 or 3 years.

No, I've never read much of the UK material. I've tried, but I'm just not a fan of the writing style of the time. I rarely go back and read early Marvel Transformers either, so I'm not picking on the UK comics.

I am less concerned when writers kill of characters will little history just because there is less of a loss. They are easier to replace if the need arises.

That makes a sense, from a certain point of view. On the other hand, it's a shame to dispose of a promising character with plenty of potential for development.

I'm not all that unhappy that Rotorstorm got his head blown off, and I'm sure his death will have a measured effect on the story and the other characters, but on the other hand it does end the character's potential for future growth and future interaction with other characters, doesn't it? If anyone's become a fan of Rotorstorm, well, they got two issues and a few pages to enjoy the character, and that's it.

[Dominic]

If anyone's become a fan of Rotorstorm, well, they got two issues and a few pages to enjoy the character, and that's it.

But, why would anyone be a fan of Rotorstorm in the first place though? The most useful thing he did was die. He was written in just to die. Roche just did not telegraph it to the reader the first time Rotorstorm showed up. I like helicopter TFs as much, if not more, than the next guy. But, there are plenty of other 'copter-formers.

In Rotorstorm's case, the highest and best use for the character was to kill him off. Any potential uses for Rotorstorm could be filled by other characters.

Dom
-we can go to the store and get you a new Rotorstorm.

[138 Scourge]

Well, I really liked Rotorstorm, anyway. Not so much because he was a helicopter, but more because of how well his character came through in his short life.

"Hey, guys, I'm so awesome, I can totally do this extremely hard task! Hell yeah, go me!"

(later)

"Oh, god, why did I say that, I'm such an effing jerk. Stupid, stupid, stupid!"

And then he is actually able to do the crazy hard stuff. That's not gonna be as easy to replace as a helicopter is.

(Okay, yeah, Slingshot, but Slingshot sucks).