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I hate to repeat myself, but could you be more specific? The criticisms in your last post seemed to be entirely predicated on continuity problems.Sparky Prime wrote:I'd still say there were problems with the story.
That post was mostly to respond to the others criticisms. As I said though, it wasn't as well thought out as it should have been. Like, to use the Matrix as an example (ignoring the continuity issues with it for a moment), the story finally puts some focus on it, building up its role and giving us some insight behind it and then the whole plot point is essentially dropped altogether with the Matrix hardly even being mentioned in the second half of the story. At the very least they should have covered Megatron's true motivations for taking it. I have some other things in mind but I'm not sure if you want me to get into some spoilers that haven't been covered in this discussion... Anyway, that's how the whole series seemed to me. It was just all over the place at times, hitting on different things but then falling flat before it actually went anywhere.Gomess wrote:I hate to repeat myself, but could you be more specific? The criticisms in your last post seemed to be entirely predicated on continuity problems.
Alt modes are for wimps!BWprowl wrote: It only recently occurred to me that the characters barely *transform* in that story.
Exactly!138 Scourge wrote:Alt modes are for wimps!BWprowl wrote: It only recently occurred to me that the characters barely *transform* in that story.
Is the Matrix really a focal point of the story, or is it just to give context? A plot device? Would appreciate a rebuttal from someone else to Sparky's point, here. Fans of AHM, be honest; is the Matrix built up as important, only to all-but vanish from the story? This doesn't count as spoilers to me, and in all likelihood I won't read AHM for a good month or so.Sparky Prime wrote:Gomess wrote:Like, to use the Matrix as an example (ignoring the continuity issues with it for a moment), the story finally puts some focus on it, building up its role and giving us some insight behind it and then the whole plot point is essentially dropped altogether with the Matrix hardly even being mentioned in the second half of the story. At the very least they should have covered Megatron's true motivations for taking it.
Sparky's problems are with the pacing and the under-use of McGuffins. The Autobots do not show up for much of the first half of the series. This makes sense, given that the high concept is "how bad it would get if the Decepticons won". But, Sparky and many others have a huge problem with this. (And, things are bad for everyone, including the Decepticons.) And, Sparky does not like the idea of the Matrix as being important as something other than an over-powered RP McGuffin. Megatron has it, and is tinkering with it. But, his plans do not seem to hinge on it.I hate to repeat myself, but could you be more specific? The criticisms in your last post seemed to be entirely predicated on continuity problems.
Furman through it out the window. Many of the other "inconsistencies" were intentional as part of an effort to distance the series from Furman's aimless writing. Furman lost his mojo at some point in the last not-quite-a-decade. He could not even make it through a standard "Infiltration to Devastation".But McCarthy pretty much threw that all out the window.
The wiki presented it as Cliffjumper saying that Drift "was so cool" when he was in fact clearly reacting to Perceptor's marksmanship.I don't see what you're referring to here... How do they portray it differently from the comic?
That damned "skipping" effect is a killer huh?Other post felt like it was getting bit long so decided to split things up a bit into two posts.
The lack of transforming really should not matter. "Last Stand of the Wreckers" is a well written comic, "Transformers" be damned.actually have to wonder how Gomess would feel about Last Stand of the Wreckers. It only recently occurred to me that the characters barely *transform* in that story. I don't know how I missed that the first time through, that's usually one of *my* big pet peeves in Transformers stories. Was LSotW really just so good that I didn't notice?
I love it when people try to say what *my* problems are with the story. Especially when it seems they don't have a clear understanding of what those problems are. I've never said the story needed more use of McGuffins. Again, my complaint about the Matrix has always been that they needed to explain Megatron's *motivation*, and the continuity issues that went along with it. Megatron never even gets to his true plans. Instead, he literally spends the *entire series* waiting for Starscream to make his move and letting the Decepticon army become bored.Dominic wrote:Sparky's problems are with the pacing and the under-use of McGuffins. The Autobots do not show up for much of the first half of the series. This makes sense, given that the high concept is "how bad it would get if the Decepticons won". But, Sparky and many others have a huge problem with this. (And, things are bad for everyone, including the Decepticons.) And, Sparky does not like the idea of the Matrix as being important as something other than an over-powered RP McGuffin. Megatron has it, and is tinkering with it. But, his plans do not seem to hinge on it.
As we've gone over several times, the context in the story shows the Matrix not to be a mere trophy to Megatron. I honestly don't know why you even continue to stick to this idea when you've never been able to provide any evidence from the story itself that even suggests this.The Matrix is more a trophy in AHM, like marching through the Arche De Triomphe in Paris.
Many of these changes are not small things. You cannot figure out why a character has a completely different personality "off panel" for example. This is the sort of thing that needs to be covered if you're going to make changes like that.Many of the "inconsistencies are caused my McCarthy assuming people can just sort of figure out that some things happened off panel, rather than showing everything in sequence.
Furman didn't write AHM.Furman through it out the window.
Guido Guidi confirmed that Hasbro asked him to use the Universe designs to help promote the toys. And IDW has held a policy of character designs being up to artistic license. It had nothing to do with distancing the franchise from Furman's work. And again, McCarthy had said there was an in-story explanation, but never explained what that was.Starscream and the other jets taking F15 forms was another example of distancing the franchise from Furman's work, and possibly a Hasbro mandate to make the look like the stupidly over-priced Masterpiece fgures. That is all it was, but people just could not handle it. And, there is no reason to assume that the Decepticons taking F15 forms would be a down-grade. Just because they look like F15s does not mean they will fly like F15s. (How many police cars and rally cars can deploy artillery like Prowl and Wheeljack did in "Escalation"?
I don't see that they even mention Cliffjumper's comment on the wiki.The wiki presented it as Cliffjumper saying that Drift "was so cool" when he was in fact clearly reacting to Perceptor's marksmanship.
Rather, a wall of text doesn't make for easily being able to double check if everything got covered that I wanted to.That damned "skipping" effect is a killer huh?
I didn't say it was "totally forgotten about", I said it was hardly even mentioned after that.Gomess wrote:Ok, and *then* it's "totally forgotten about", as Sparky says....?