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JT wrote:While it's nice to have "Orion Pax" in stories from time to time, I find the writing with him predictable enough that I prefer they more aggressively distance OP from Optimus Prime or they just leave him out altogether.
I think an important part of this little arc is that...If you're Optimus Prime, it's impossible to not be Optimus Prime. He might have changed his name back, but he's still in his big-ass upgraded body, and he's still the former leader of the entire Autobot faction. He can't be the guy he was before all this, because he's not that guy anymore.
Rattrap's behavior is a bit heavy-handed and obvious, the reveal in the same issue makes it feel inconsequential.
Having not read it, it's hard for me to comment whole-heartedly, but that might be a consequence of an obvious plot twist looming. Which, like you say, kind of begs the question of why it's necessary in the first place.
Dom wrote:I like Wheeljack as much as anybody else. But, he worked better dead. (Think about it. KIlling the most stable and competent member of any/either regime is a good way to make sure that the story is ripe for discord.) There is also the whole "he was dead but got better" problem that is common in comics....
Again, not having read it--how "well" is Wheeljack? Is he in stasis lock/a coma? Or is he just kind of handcuffed to a wall in Starscream's dungeon, muttering about how he'll never get away with this? Because if it's the former, IDW has a pretty decent track record of keeping characters "in a coma" for years until some writer finally decides to make them useful again. (Kup was out of commission for years after Spotlight Kup, and I really don't see Springer popping back up for a long while now.)

Plus, IDW TFs are shown to survive practically anything. (Although it often makes me wonder about other characters, like Skyquake, who are unceremoniously offed and then never turn up again.)
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
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Onslaught Six wrote:Again, not having read it--how "well" is Wheeljack? Is he in stasis lock/a coma? Or is he just kind of handcuffed to a wall in Starscream's dungeon, muttering about how he'll never get away with this? Because if it's the former, IDW has a pretty decent track record of keeping characters "in a coma" for years until some writer finally decides to make them useful again. (Kup was out of commission for years after Spotlight Kup, and I really don't see Springer popping back up for a long while now.)

Plus, IDW TFs are shown to survive practically anything. (Although it often makes me wonder about other characters, like Skyquake, who are unceremoniously offed and then never turn up again.)
Wheeljack was shot in the back of the head at point blank range by Prowl/Bombshell. It looked like his head was blown to pieces, and I certainly assumed it was fatal at the time. I'm not sure how he'd live through something like that.
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I dunno, you're reading MTMTE, aren't you? TFs lose their heads and survive anyway so often in that book that I'm starting to think Roberts might have some sort of weird fetish for it. At any rate, it provides enough precedent that I'm inclined to believe that Wheeljack could have survived the ordeal, though it doesn't really matter to me since I'm not even reading the book anymore.

But hey, if you guys want to add this onto a list of things to shit on Barber and his crappy comic about, don't stop on my account. :twisted:
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Wheeljack's death should have stuck.

But, you are being unfair to Barber. The faction lines are still blurred. When Prowl was last seen, he was getting called out on his questionable tactics (from before he was mind-controlled). The war is still over. Barber has not set the book back to 80s spec, nor has he set it back to '05 spec.

You are expecting Barber to set the book back to 80s spec, and just assuming that he has already done so. Let him actually to the stupid wrong thing before you call him out for it.


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Wheeljack was shot in the back of the head at point blank range by Prowl/Bombshell. It looked like his head was blown to pieces, and I certainly assumed it was fatal at the time. I'm not sure how he'd live through something like that.
Yeah, I read that part--what's he like now? Is he just a corpse with a heartrate, or what? Because if he's not dead-dead and just in an Extended-Ass Coma, like Kup was and Springer is, then that's more acceptable than if he was just up and walking around. (Like, I don't know, Optimus Prime in All Hail Megatron. Hey, I have my complaints too.)
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Onslaught Six wrote:
Wheeljack was shot in the back of the head at point blank range by Prowl/Bombshell. It looked like his head was blown to pieces, and I certainly assumed it was fatal at the time. I'm not sure how he'd live through something like that.
Yeah, I read that part--what's he like now? Is he just a corpse with a heartrate, or what? Because if he's not dead-dead and just in an Extended-Ass Coma, like Kup was and Springer is, then that's more acceptable than if he was just up and walking around. (Like, I don't know, Optimus Prime in All Hail Megatron. Hey, I have my complaints too.)
He's in one of those liquid-filled repair tanks, probably in a coma. Starscream's talking to him, calling him "my friend" and he's not responding, so he's still down and out, even if he's alive. I have to say, I don't mind him still being alive at all. He was a bright spot in a fairly dark book, and I'm glad he'll be around in future.
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Dominic wrote:But, you are being unfair to Barber. The faction lines are still blurred. When Prowl was last seen, he was getting called out on his questionable tactics (from before he was mind-controlled). The war is still over. Barber has not set the book back to 80s spec, nor has he set it back to '05 spec.

You are expecting Barber to set the book back to 80s spec, and just assuming that he has already done so. Let him actually to the stupid wrong thing before you call him out for it.
He couldn't commit to the dramatic, interesting character development on either Prowl or Starscream, setting them back to their stock character specs before the story ended. He also incompetently wrote Metalhawk as an utter retard purely to fuel his backwriting of Starscream, decided it was easier to make the entire 'faction blurring' and conflict-analysis aspect of the plot just an evil hate-plague scheme from Megatron, and now can't even commit to killing Wheeljack, which he had initially only done for shock value anyway. Really, that sort of thing only reinforces my belief that Barber's been stringing us along, making this crap up as he goes.
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He committed to writing the story he wrote. It just happens it is not the story you wanted or expected.

The factions are still blurred. The Constructicons are following Prowl (who is still an Autobot). Dirge is either neutral or with the Autobots, I dunno. I cannot recall at the moment.

And, this week's issue.....

Issue 21:
This issue focuses on the Decepticons, and a schism in their ranks. More than a few characters are doubting Megatron's greatness as a leader, leaving Soundwave as one of the last loyalist Decepticons. A new McGuffin (a variant of energon that functionally makes its users indestructible) is introduced this issue. I admit to being a bit worried that it will be used to raise a few dead characters either during or after "Dark Cybertron". (I really like the idea that characters like Thrust, Ramjet or Scrapper can die and stay dead. I would kind of like the to stay that way.) "Dark Cybertron" is going to be a big stupid event. But, I am interested in what IDW plans to do after the event is over. Hopefully, it will not be a reset.
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I enjoyed this issue's focus on Soundwave. It was also interesting to see that Shockwave didn't become a part of the "Deceptigod" back in the Chaos storyline. If we're being set up for a Soundwave versus Shockwave storyline, it's hard to know who to root for, but I'd be surprised if Shockwave didn't win that fight.
Dominic wrote: A new McGuffin (a variant of energon that functionally makes its users indestructible) is introduced this issue.
It was actually introduced a few issues ago in the Shockwave Origin issue.
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Ah, you are right. Either way, I am hoping it does not lead to every dead character coming back. (I kind of like that not all of the jets are still alive. Thrust, Ramjet and Sunstorm arguably add more to the book buy being dead.


As for Soundwave v/s Shockwave, IDW seems to be writing Soundwave as not being that much of a bad guy. (Note the reasons given for him joining the Decepticons in the first place.)
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