The modern comics universe has had such a different take on G1, one that's significantly represented by the Generations toys, so they share a forum. A modern take on a Real Cybertronian Hero. Currently starring Generations toys, IDW "The Transformers" comics, MTMTE, TF vs GI Joe, and Windblade. Oh wait, and now Skybound, wheee!
Onslaught Six wrote:We're not given any indication how long it is between the races being shut down and Blurr showing up at the empty bar. I assumed it was, at the least, several weeks, since I doubt the bar would go from full to empty in a day.
We're not given any indication when Piston told Blurr he was leaving to join the Autobots either. For all we know, that could have been a couple weeks after the races were shut down as well.
No, we are. It's very much implied this is directly after the cancelling of the races, because of Blurr's dialogue. "The races may be over, but the parties aren't."
Real 'human' life. We don't know how domestic disputes like rowdy parties are solved in pre-war Cybertron. For all we know, they just devolve into gunfights and the Autobots don't get involved. As I've pointed out, the only time in Megs Origin that they actually show up are either protecting important politicians or in direct combat with clearly illegal underground boxing clubs [/Fight Club dialogue reference] or with insane terrorist organizations.
Protecting a politician, combating underground fight clubs and fighting terrorism are very different jobs. On Earth, those would each be handled by different agencies. On Cybertron, all we've got is Autobots. Which again is why I'm lead to believe the Autobots are in charge of all the levels of law enforcement on Cybertron.
What *I'm* pointing out is that 'if' the Autobots are the only form of law enforcement on Cybertron, then they have better shit to do than break up Blurr's parties. Which, again, we're never given any indication that they even 'do' that.
I dunno, whatever, I'm gonna go watch Sin City with my girlfriend.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
As O6 argues though, the Autobots are not necessarily local cops. They seem to be more a combination of National Guard and Secret Service. I have only seen a few Secret Sevice agents in person. I have met members of the National Guard. Many people would just say, "army guys", which is pretty close to Blurr not knowing the difference between and Autobot and a Decepticon.
If I did not read a newspaper, I would assume that the FBI, (or if I was really stupid, the CIA), did the work of..say... the ATF. (And, yes, there is a case to be made that we should not stove-pipe between different organizations, but anyway....)
If Blurr had any run-ins with the cops, and his staff did not take care of them, then he was probably dealing with local authorities.
Given that Transformers is soft-scifi, I will assume that they, and their laws, are similar to modern western civilization, unless there is some specific plot-point requiring deviation. In this case though, the comic implies that the two are the same.
Onslaught Six wrote:No, we are. It's very much implied this is directly after the cancelling of the races, because of Blurr's dialogue. "The races may be over, but the parties aren't."
Given Blurr asks Piston "You're clearing out your things? You know, the races might-" implies to me that some time has passed but Blurr is still holding out hope the races will restart while Piston has already given up and is moving on. When Blurr says at the end of the conversation "The races may be over, but the parties aren't." is more like Blurr saying "Screw it, I'm going to go get drunk on energon".
What *I'm* pointing out is that 'if' the Autobots are the only form of law enforcement on Cybertron, then they have better shit to do than break up Blurr's parties. Which, again, we're never given any indication that they even 'do' that.
People say the same thing about local authorities pulling them over for speeding. "Don't they have anything better to do?" Well yeah, they do, but enforcing the smaller things is part of their job as well.
Dominic wrote:As O6 argues though, the Autobots are not necessarily local cops.
I know what O6 is arguing. I just don't agree with that interpretation.
Even if they are the local cops, it is entirely possible for a sheltered/pamperd celebrity to avoid contact with them through the use of employees and bribes.
As I understand it, Paris Hilton was amazed she was arrested for drug-use(?) because she thought her celebrity status would insulate her from it. Perhaps, Blurr was insulated?
In all seriousness Sparky, I have no idea where you live or what circles you travel in. But, I can guarantee you, there are people as ignorant as Blurr is shown to be in this comic. Look around a bit, you will find them. There are *many* people that ignorant. Make a game of it, kind of like "spot the license plate". You and your friends can take bets, or maybe have it be a drinking game. Or, you could just get drunk and moon each-other. Either way, there are people that foolish.
I agree with how you took Blurr's "the races might start again" line. But, that just illustrates how ignorant he was.
Dom
-wants to hear stories of Sparky's "find the stupid people drinking game", and of him mooning people.
Dominic wrote:Even if they are the local cops, it is entirely possible for a sheltered/pamperd celebrity to avoid contact with them through the use of employees and bribes.
That'd suggest those people are aware who/what cops are to know that they want to avoid them though. Blurr has no idea what the word Autobot even means. I doubt even someone like Paris Hilton doesn't know what a cop is.
So, er, Blurr hasn't heard of the Autobots. Oh well.
You're also forgetting the bits where Spotlight Blurr takes place in Pseudo-New IDW where half the crap from before is forgotten about because the new writers are too lazy to read back through it. Who the hell is Zeta Prime? Also, why is everyone in different designs now than they were in Megs Origin? Oh, that's right, because the guys writing and drawing seem to have forgotten about it anyway.
...Not to discredit these new guys, I'm willing to overlook whatever tiny inconsistencies with the previous canon because this is 'good stuff' and it's 'not Furman.'
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
Onslaught Six wrote:...Not to discredit these new guys, I'm willing to overlook whatever tiny inconsistencies with the previous canon because this is 'good stuff' and it's 'not Furman.'
Megatron Origin wasn't Furman either, it was Eric Holmes.
But I guess that's my main issue with SL:Blurr... The creators could have tried harder to blend it with the continuity already established and that this is supposedly supposed to be a part of.
That's true, but they're also ignoring the precedent set by Spotlight: Prime, which also establishes that Optimus followed up Sentinel and that was that.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
The inconsistencies are caused largely by a lack of sound editorial directives. The reason Marvel and DC used to be better about this sort of thing is because they had actual editors who did more than just rubber-stamp dead-lines. Editors used to edit for grammar, content and context. (Mark Gruenwald spent much of his time at Marvel keeping things organized, and reconciling the points that were not consistent.)
Of course, given that the IDW comics are relatively new, the writers and artists can shoulder much of the blame and burden here. (TFA has the advantage of being more or less all Marty Isenberg, and avoiding much of these problems in the first place.)
These kinds of problems are one of the reasons why I tend to prefer single issue stories with TF nowadays, as continuity is less of an issue. It is also why TF is mostly a filler-book for me. it gives me something to come back for between issues of "All Star Superman". The fact that this kind of short=term writing model does not increase readership over time, (and very likely plays a role in decreasing it, seems elude most comic companies.
Dom
-notes that "All Star Superman" has not even been solicited for a few months.
