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Shockwave wrote:I guess it's just a difference in preference then. I'd prefer to have more opportunity to get the toys I want than to be "shotgunned" with a bunch of shit I don't want.
My point was that if they only release twenty toys a year, all twenty might be shit you don't want. Law of averages and all that. Then you'd have nothing cool to buy all year.
And really with as many lines as they have, there's really no reason why they can't just do both. Maybe switch things up a bit. Alternate waves between new shit and restock old shit. Then everyone gets shit they want. Case in point, if they were still refreshing the GDO cases with Hot Spot, more people would have Hot Spot.
They actually do that: often a 'new' wave of toys will also include figures from previous waves, albeit in reduced quantities. Sometimes a 'shortpacked' figure will have a wider release in a later case revision, makeups of them aren't as clear-cut as you'd think.

As for stores and how they order things, that actually has a lot to do with why you only see things sometimes. See, a lot of stores, especially these days, order shit-tons of the first wave/case assortment of a line. Just piles of them, and throw them in the back. That's why you might see shelves get lower for a while, but then they just get restocked with more 'Wave 1' stuff, over and over again. This hit the later movie lines, especially ROTF, rather hard. It was cheaper (shipping et al) for stores just to order a whole season's worth of toys at once and sit on them until the next reset, than to order them piecemeal throughout the season, ensuring that later waves/cases would get shipped to them over a more natural progression. This is why a lot of late-line toys end up being hard to find; not many stores order them because by the time the line is winding down, they've got enough stock of earlier waves to just sit on until the line resets. It's why a lot of that hard-to-find late-line stuff turns up at closeout chains like Marshall's or Ross instead. That stuff's all produced and ready to go, but no regular retail chain wants to order it because their shelves are still being refilled with old shit they ordered four months ago.

In the case of the GDO waves, saw that my TRU did restock those a few times, but they were still rather hard to find for many people. This all comes down to economic rule #1: Supply and Demand. The amount of those toys produced, ordered, and shipped to the stores was likely based on sales expectation numbers the people representing TRU came up with. Yeah, they conceivably could have ordered more than they did, but their statistics showed that they might end up with more unsold stock if they did that, which is something they don't want, since that's effectively money lost. Given that it was an all-repaint line that was already exclusive to one retail chain, sales expectations for the GDO line were clearly not that high to begin with, which would explain why most TRUs only got a medium amount of them.
And that's another thing that annoys me about toy distribution: Shortpacking. Why the fuck do they do this? Seriously, why design a toy if you're only going to release like, ten of them? That's the kind shit that should be left to TFCC/Botcon exclusives, not retail product that you want everyone to buy and have access to.
That's another sales expectation thing, and it's technically a good thing on Hasbro's part. The idea is that you want more of the toys you expect to sell to be packed into a case, with the ones you don't expect to do quite as well taking up less space. The idea is to avoid the dreaded shelfwarmers by making it so that the toys you expect to warm won't have as much of a presence to do so, and the toys everyone will want will be readily available. Look at the first wave of Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxes/Revealers: Hasbro packed like three Bumblebees into those cases and only one Soundwave. Bumblebee's a kid-appeal character: He's bright yellow and stands out on the shelf, turns into a cool car, and is based on the memorable mascot of the bazillion-dollar movie franchise, kids fucking love Bumblebee, so Hasbro packed a ton of him in cases to make sure kids going down to the store with their parents could readily nab one off the shelves to beg their parents to buy. Soundwave, meanwhile, is a villain, which traditionally don't perform well in toylines, is an understated shade of blue that doesn't really grab your attention, lacks the most basic facets of a memorable character personality, and doesn't turn into the most cool or photogenic of vehicles. Hasbro doesn't really expect a bunch of the target audience to go after Soundwave, but they pack the toy in anyway because they know SOME kids (and collectors) will want him, so those are still sales to be made. Now in this case, that assortment backfired spectacularly, as kids had finally grown sick of Bumblebee, leaving piles of him all over the shelves at stores, and collectors went crazy trying to get Soundwave, but you can still see what they were going for here. Hasbro can only make the best estimated guesses that they can, and that's why some toys get more priority over others.
Of course, I'm sure most of my frustration comes from living in the scalper capital of the world. If the toys aisles here didn't get picked clean the second shit drops I might not be so bitchy about it. But, that's the other thing is that the current model allows for that shit to happen and even causes it. I mean, If MP Starscream was getting refreshed throughout the year he was released and we knew he'd be available all year, do you think it would have been scalped as much as it did? Or even at all? What's the point of scalping something that you and your scalpee base knows is going to still be available later on? There would be no point to it.
Hey, you know I know where you're coming from. I hunted for an Animated Arcee for weeks, and ordered most of the GDO figures I bought straight from TRU's online store. The caveat with the scalper factor is that it's difficult for Hasbro to predict. Just because it ends up shortpacked doesn't guarantee that collectors (or kids) will want it, and even 'longpacked' toys can end up as desirable scalper-bait (Sunstreaker vs. Octankor in the first Universe wave was a good example of this). That such things can also vary depending on region is another factor that's difficult for Hasbro to figure out in their distribution equation.
As for the internet thing, again, that's making a pretty big assumption about "fandom". Not everyone has unlimited hours to spend on the internet. In fact, I know a lot of people that don't really spend a lot of their free time online. I run into this attitude a lot on TFW regarding discussion threads that new members weren't there for. Like every time someone who just joined starts a "FIRRIB" thread and swear to God, the first ten posts are all "oh not this again" or "Weren't you here for the last one" and shit like that. Well, no, they weren't there for the last one. That's the point. Not everyone lives their entire lives online.
Believe me, I don't spend my whole life on the internet either. I don't even visit any of Tigermegadeth's 'Top 10 Transformers fan-sites', just here and regular browsing of /toy/ is all. You just gotta pay attention to what people are talking about when you are on (I know we had at least two threads about those GDO toys back when they were first revealed), and it's not like threads here move quickly enough that you could 'miss' them. See, at least you always feel like you're a part of everything that happens here!

I dunno, maybe I'm more atypical than I thought in liking TF so much that I'm always keeping an eye out for whatever the latest toy releases are going to be. Plus, like you, I know you have to keep on exactly when stuff's going to be hitting stores to have a chance of getting it before the scalpers do. So maybe that's a contributing factor to my attitude in keeping on these things. *shrug*
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BWprowl wrote:Believe me, I don't spend my whole life on the internet either. I don't even visit any of Tigermegadeth's 'Top 10 Transformers fan-sites', just here and regular browsing of /toy/ is all. You just gotta pay attention to what people are talking about when you are on (I know we had at least two threads about those GDO toys back when they were first revealed), and it's not like threads here move quickly enough that you could 'miss' them. See, at least you always feel like you're a part of everything that happens here!
Honestly it doesn't take hours upon hours each day to get all the TF news being released that day. The top 5 fan TF news sites have everything all neatly organized on the front home pages. It literally takes under Two minutes to zip thru all the top 5 TF news sites searching for the days current new TF news reveals.

Then their are also sites like TFsource & BBTS that have all the newer TF toys Pre-orders & new arrivials neatly organized on their front home pages. I normally look at these sites for under one minute three times a week looking for newer TF toys info.

To insult others for getting more TF news info by suggesting they have no lives & have more spare time is kinda rude & insulting. I only spend one hour each day on the internet. BWProwl,please don't mention my name when replying to Shockwave nor sparky in fans comparsions replies. I have shockwave & Sparky on my foe/ignore list for a valid reason,because all they do is overly repeat themselves & look to start trouble via pushing one's button's via clever under-handled flame baits.
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Tigermegatron wrote:I have shockwave & Sparky on my foe/ignore list for a valid reason,because all they do is overly repeat themselves & look to start trouble via pushing one's button's via clever under-handled flame baits.
Please stop falsely accusing me and others of flame baiting. I'm not sure how or why you seem think anyone is looking for trouble, because that is not that case what-so-ever. And it's really starting to get on my nerves you keep accusing us of it.
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Shockwave wrote:I guess it's just a difference in preference then. I'd prefer to have more opportunity to get the toys I want than to be "shotgunned" with a bunch of shit I don't want.
My point was that if they only release twenty toys a year, all twenty might be shit you don't want. Law of averages and all that. Then you'd have nothing cool to buy all year.
And really with as many lines as they have, there's really no reason why they can't just do both. Maybe switch things up a bit. Alternate waves between new shit and restock old shit. Then everyone gets shit they want. Case in point, if they were still refreshing the GDO cases with Hot Spot, more people would have Hot Spot.
They actually do that: often a 'new' wave of toys will also include figures from previous waves, albeit in reduced quantities. Sometimes a 'shortpacked' figure will have a wider release in a later case revision, makeups of them aren't as clear-cut as you'd think.

As for stores and how they order things, that actually has a lot to do with why you only see things sometimes. See, a lot of stores, especially these days, order shit-tons of the first wave/case assortment of a line. Just piles of them, and throw them in the back. That's why you might see shelves get lower for a while, but then they just get restocked with more 'Wave 1' stuff, over and over again. This hit the later movie lines, especially ROTF, rather hard. It was cheaper (shipping et al) for stores just to order a whole season's worth of toys at once and sit on them until the next reset, than to order them piecemeal throughout the season, ensuring that later waves/cases would get shipped to them over a more natural progression. This is why a lot of late-line toys end up being hard to find; not many stores order them because by the time the line is winding down, they've got enough stock of earlier waves to just sit on until the line resets. It's why a lot of that hard-to-find late-line stuff turns up at closeout chains like Marshall's or Ross instead. That stuff's all produced and ready to go, but no regular retail chain wants to order it because their shelves are still being refilled with old shit they ordered four months ago.

In the case of the GDO waves, saw that my TRU did restock those a few times, but they were still rather hard to find for many people. This all comes down to economic rule #1: Supply and Demand. The amount of those toys produced, ordered, and shipped to the stores was likely based on sales expectation numbers the people representing TRU came up with. Yeah, they conceivably could have ordered more than they did, but their statistics showed that they might end up with more unsold stock if they did that, which is something they don't want, since that's effectively money lost. Given that it was an all-repaint line that was already exclusive to one retail chain, sales expectations for the GDO line were clearly not that high to begin with, which would explain why most TRUs only got a medium amount of them.
And that's another thing that annoys me about toy distribution: Shortpacking. Why the fuck do they do this? Seriously, why design a toy if you're only going to release like, ten of them? That's the kind shit that should be left to TFCC/Botcon exclusives, not retail product that you want everyone to buy and have access to.
That's another sales expectation thing, and it's technically a good thing on Hasbro's part. The idea is that you want more of the toys you expect to sell to be packed into a case, with the ones you don't expect to do quite as well taking up less space. The idea is to avoid the dreaded shelfwarmers by making it so that the toys you expect to warm won't have as much of a presence to do so, and the toys everyone will want will be readily available. Look at the first wave of Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxes/Revealers: Hasbro packed like three Bumblebees into those cases and only one Soundwave. Bumblebee's a kid-appeal character: He's bright yellow and stands out on the shelf, turns into a cool car, and is based on the memorable mascot of the bazillion-dollar movie franchise, kids fucking love Bumblebee, so Hasbro packed a ton of him in cases to make sure kids going down to the store with their parents could readily nab one off the shelves to beg their parents to buy. Soundwave, meanwhile, is a villain, which traditionally don't perform well in toylines, is an understated shade of blue that doesn't really grab your attention, lacks the most basic facets of a memorable character personality, and doesn't turn into the most cool or photogenic of vehicles. Hasbro doesn't really expect a bunch of the target audience to go after Soundwave, but they pack the toy in anyway because they know SOME kids (and collectors) will want him, so those are still sales to be made. Now in this case, that assortment backfired spectacularly, as kids had finally grown sick of Bumblebee, leaving piles of him all over the shelves at stores, and collectors went crazy trying to get Soundwave, but you can still see what they were going for here. Hasbro can only make the best estimated guesses that they can, and that's why some toys get more priority over others.
Of course, I'm sure most of my frustration comes from living in the scalper capital of the world. If the toys aisles here didn't get picked clean the second shit drops I might not be so bitchy about it. But, that's the other thing is that the current model allows for that shit to happen and even causes it. I mean, If MP Starscream was getting refreshed throughout the year he was released and we knew he'd be available all year, do you think it would have been scalped as much as it did? Or even at all? What's the point of scalping something that you and your scalpee base knows is going to still be available later on? There would be no point to it.
Hey, you know I know where you're coming from. I hunted for an Animated Arcee for weeks, and ordered most of the GDO figures I bought straight from TRU's online store. The caveat with the scalper factor is that it's difficult for Hasbro to predict. Just because it ends up shortpacked doesn't guarantee that collectors (or kids) will want it, and even 'longpacked' toys can end up as desirable scalper-bait (Sunstreaker vs. Octankor in the first Universe wave was a good example of this). That such things can also vary depending on region is another factor that's difficult for Hasbro to figure out in their distribution equation.
As for the internet thing, again, that's making a pretty big assumption about "fandom". Not everyone has unlimited hours to spend on the internet. In fact, I know a lot of people that don't really spend a lot of their free time online. I run into this attitude a lot on TFW regarding discussion threads that new members weren't there for. Like every time someone who just joined starts a "FIRRIB" thread and swear to God, the first ten posts are all "oh not this again" or "Weren't you here for the last one" and shit like that. Well, no, they weren't there for the last one. That's the point. Not everyone lives their entire lives online.
Believe me, I don't spend my whole life on the internet either. I don't even visit any of Tigermegadeth's 'Top 10 Transformers fan-sites', just here and regular browsing of /toy/ is all. You just gotta pay attention to what people are talking about when you are on (I know we had at least two threads about those GDO toys back when they were first revealed), and it's not like threads here move quickly enough that you could 'miss' them. See, at least you always feel like you're a part of everything that happens here!

I dunno, maybe I'm more atypical than I thought in liking TF so much that I'm always keeping an eye out for whatever the latest toy releases are going to be. Plus, like you, I know you have to keep on exactly when stuff's going to be hitting stores to have a chance of getting it before the scalpers do. So maybe that's a contributing factor to my attitude in keeping on these things. *shrug*
And this is why I kinda can't help wondering if the franchise has gotten too big. There's so many different lines now that it isn't just one line "Transformers" like it was in the 80's. If it was they could continue to do the once a year thing and there'd be no complaining. People would either collect TFs or they wouldn't.

Yeah, I don't go onto very many sites either (in fact I can't even think of 10 different TF sites). I pretty much go here and tfw and that's it. I also check BBTS every day. I think what happened with the GDO figures is that they came out and I just forgot about them. Or maybe it was last year when I wasn't really buying TFs or even going to stores or anything.

The problem I'm going to run into with the current distribution model is that, in my current financial state my toy budget is extremely low. Most of my collections expansion is going to be off of my parents gifting me stuff. And my parents don't use ebay. So if it's not currently available I'm essentially out. And I certainly understand what you mean about scalpers, it's either beat 'em or give up. I guess the difference is that you still try to beat them while I've basically given up. And I can tell you it was the MP Starscream debacle that made me give up. I was done after that. Really WM? REally? You're gonna actively let scalpers help you open boxes and just buy everything on the spot? I'm done. I literally have never bought a toy there since.

Crap, I just remembered I got the FoC Optimus Jazz and Shockwave there. Actually, those were the only ones I got after MP Starscream though so I have, for the most part stuck to my boycott.
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Shockwave wrote:And this is why I kinda can't help wondering if the franchise has gotten too big. There's so many different lines now that it isn't just one line "Transformers" like it was in the 80's. If it was they could continue to do the once a year thing and there'd be no complaining. People would either collect TFs or they wouldn't.
Oh there'd be complaining. These are Transfans we're talking about, there will always be complaining.

Anyway, I still don't see how "One set of a couple-dozen figures per year" would be preferable to what we have now. I don't know about you, but I *like* getting new Transformers. Would you really just want to have only a few figures, from a single line/style/aesthetic, to choose from for an entire year? The franchise would be even more stagnant than (I think) it already is.
And I can tell you it was the MP Starscream debacle that made me give up. I was done after that. Really WM? REally? You're gonna actively let scalpers help you open boxes and just buy everything on the spot? I'm done. I literally have never bought a toy there since.
Of course they're gonna let them do that. This nice guy comes over, helps you do your job, then buys ~$500 worth of merchandise at once, right there? That kind of customer is a dream come true for those guys!

And it's funny you should mention that, because you remember what happened after that? Masterpiece Skywarp. Wal-Mart, remembering the hue and cry over how hard it was to get a hold of MP Starscream, ordered a metric shit-ton of MP Skywarps. And they hung around forever. They dropped the price to twenty bucks and STILL couldn't get rid of them! That scenario should perfectly illustrate the fine line between under-ordering and over-ordering I was describing.
Crap, I just remembered I got the FoC Optimus Jazz and Shockwave there. Actually, those were the only ones I got after MP Starscream though so I have, for the most part stuck to my boycott.
I've generally avoided them for the past year or so, just because their toy section became so dismal. Interestingly, I actually stopped by there for the first time in that long today, and they were...okay. All the new BH Deluxes, including Smokescreen (not a big deal to me since I think I'm the one person in the world who doesn't want that toy), which would be great if I hadn't already seen that wave (and bought Ripclaw) a week ago at Target. They had no Voyagers (I was kinda hoping to stumble upon a Blaster), Generations Deluxes past Wave 2 (everyone but me seems to be finding Kickback, Ultra Magnus, and Starscream), or Generations data-discs (the main reason I had swung by there since I'd heard the Autobot discs were showing up at Wa-Mart). So yeah...still not that great.
BWProwl,please don't mention my name when replying to Shockwave nor sparky in fans comparsions replies. I have shockwave & Sparky on my foe/ignore list for a valid reason,because all they do is overly repeat themselves & look to start trouble via pushing one's button's via clever under-handled flame baits.
I'm laughing for real right now. I may disagree with Sparky on...just about everything (okay, we've actually found common ground on a few things, but still!) but one thing I know for sure he isn't is antagonistic. I genuinely don't think I've ever seen the guy insult anyone, even with guys like Six and I ribbing the hell out of him in the most snide ways possible. The dude is remarkably unflappable.
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BWprowl wrote:
Shockwave wrote:And this is why I kinda can't help wondering if the franchise has gotten too big. There's so many different lines now that it isn't just one line "Transformers" like it was in the 80's. If it was they could continue to do the once a year thing and there'd be no complaining. People would either collect TFs or they wouldn't.
Oh there'd be complaining. These are Transfans we're talking about, there will always be complaining.
Crap. I forgot about that.
BWprowl wrote:Anyway, I still don't see how "One set of a couple-dozen figures per year" would be preferable to what we have now. I don't know about you, but I *like* getting new Transformers. Would you really just want to have only a few figures, from a single line/style/aesthetic, to choose from for an entire year? The franchise would be even more stagnant than (I think) it already is.
I dunno, I just think that there's too many lines of TFs out there. I mean, do we really *need* things like BotShots? I see that and I can't help thinking that that's a lot of development money that could be better spent on toys in lines like Generations or Prime. And, as much as I love the Legends scale, again, do we really need it? Again, those toys are basically taking the place of other, larger figures that we could have in more quantities. I mean seriously, I walk into TRU now and freakin BotShots seems like it takes up half the TF section. Get rid of that and give me more copies of Prime and Generations. I guess I just feel like the brand has reached a point where it's basically competing with itself. Almost to the point of cannibalism.
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And I can tell you it was the MP Starscream debacle that made me give up. I was done after that. Really WM? REally? You're gonna actively let scalpers help you open boxes and just buy everything on the spot? I'm done. I literally have never bought a toy there since.
Of course they're gonna let them do that. This nice guy comes over, helps you do your job, then buys ~$500 worth of merchandise at once, right there? That kind of customer is a dream come true for those guys!

And it's funny you should mention that, because you remember what happened after that? Masterpiece Skywarp. Wal-Mart, remembering the hue and cry over how hard it was to get a hold of MP Starscream, ordered a metric shit-ton of MP Skywarps. And they hung around forever. They dropped the price to twenty bucks and STILL couldn't get rid of them! That scenario should perfectly illustrate the fine line between under-ordering and over-ordering I was describing.
Yeah I never saw a single one here. Just like Starscream. And I actually looked.
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Crap, I just remembered I got the FoC Optimus Jazz and Shockwave there. Actually, those were the only ones I got after MP Starscream though so I have, for the most part stuck to my boycott.
I've generally avoided them for the past year or so, just because their toy section became so dismal. Interestingly, I actually stopped by there for the first time in that long today, and they were...okay. All the new BH Deluxes, including Smokescreen (not a big deal to me since I think I'm the one person in the world who doesn't want that toy), which would be great if I hadn't already seen that wave (and bought Ripclaw) a week ago at Target. They had no Voyagers (I was kinda hoping to stumble upon a Blaster), Generations Deluxes past Wave 2 (everyone but me seems to be finding Kickback, Ultra Magnus, and Starscream), or Generations data-discs (the main reason I had swung by there since I'd heard the Autobot discs were showing up at Wa-Mart). So yeah...still not that great.
I'm still not seeing Starscream or Kickback. I never saw the combaticons except for one copy of Swindle. I have seen Ultra Magnus though. But I've passed based on disliking the Optimus version to the point I actually traded it for something else.
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BWProwl,please don't mention my name when replying to Shockwave nor sparky in fans comparsions replies. I have shockwave & Sparky on my foe/ignore list for a valid reason,because all they do is overly repeat themselves & look to start trouble via pushing one's button's via clever under-handled flame baits.
I'm laughing for real right now. I may disagree with Sparky on...just about everything (okay, we've actually found common ground on a few things, but still!) but one thing I know for sure he isn't is antagonistic. I genuinely don't think I've ever seen the guy insult anyone, even with guys like Six and I ribbing the hell out of him in the most snide ways possible. The dude is remarkably unflappable.
Not to mention the right to free speech you have that guarantees you can say whatever the hell you want. And ain't no one gonna infringe on that right, right?
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Shockwave wrote:I dunno, I just think that there's too many lines of TFs out there. I mean, do we really *need* things like BotShots? I see that and I can't help thinking that that's a lot of development money that could be better spent on toys in lines like Generations or Prime. And, as much as I love the Legends scale, again, do we really need it? Again, those toys are basically taking the place of other, larger figures that we could have in more quantities. I mean seriously, I walk into TRU now and freakin BotShots seems like it takes up half the TF section. Get rid of that and give me more copies of Prime and Generations. I guess I just feel like the brand has reached a point where it's basically competing with itself. Almost to the point of cannibalism.
Well, when you think about it, are Bot Shots really taking away from the other lines? TFPrime and Generations are still the same size/breadth as previous lines, what we’re getting from them is on the same level as what we had in stores back when Animated and Universe were on shelves side-by-side, we just *also* have Bot Shots. And while you and I really have no interest in Bot Shots, clearly SOME people do, since they’ve been sold in stores consistently for like a year now. And if the sales from that line help keep the brand afloat and earn Hasbro more profits to develop Transformers more as a whole, I’m certainly not going to complain about it. Yeah, I’m not buying them, but as I used as an example, since they aren’t the *only* line of TFs on the shelves I’m not screwed for choices when I go to the store and look at TFs. With your idea, think about if there WAS only one assortment of TFs for a year, and that assortment was all Bot Shots. That would suck.

With Legends, I find them inoffensive. Really went crazy for the scale during DOTM, not so much now, though with Metroplex coming up I’m now quite happy I amassed such a horde of the little guys.
Yeah I never saw a single one here. Just like Starscream. And I actually looked.
Damn, I’m sorry. Wish I’d known, I’d have snagged one for you. Like I said, my Wal-Mart had so many Masterpiece Skywarps hanging around, they were having to build new shelves to hold them all, and they were building those shelves OUT OF Masterpiece Skywarps!
I'm still not seeing Starscream or Kickback. I never saw the combaticons except for one copy of Swindle. I have seen Ultra Magnus though. But I've passed based on disliking the Optimus version to the point I actually traded it for something else.
Well the Wal-Mart I went to had all of the Combaticons on the pegs, it’s the wave after that my area’s had trouble with. I’m surprised you’re against the new FoC Ultra Magnus, because even though it is still an Optimus Prime repaint, this time they actually recolored and remolded it specifically to look like Magnus’s armored look. It certainly isn’t another ‘White Optimus’.
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In my area they are. It's the same aisle space but instead of it being divided 2 or maybe 3 ways like it was during Animated/Universe (and I think movieverse stuff was still around too), now we have Prime, Generations, BotShots, Cyberverse, Legends, and there's even still some DotM stuff hanging around. So, that's a lot of stuff that taking real estate from the two lines that should be there.

I don't find Legends offensive, in fact I have an affinity for them as you do (got quite a collection of them myself), I was just using that as part of my example.

Don't feel bad, you did offer, but Scourge beat you to it. He and I traded, I sent him something and he sent me Skywarp.

I do like the look of the FoC Ultra Magnus and you're right, they really did great with the paint job and giving him a new head, I just wasn't that impressed with the mold itself.
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Shockwave wrote:In my area they are. It's the same aisle space but instead of it being divided 2 or maybe 3 ways like it was during Animated/Universe (and I think movieverse stuff was still around too), now we have Prime, Generations, BotShots, Cyberverse, Legends, and there's even still some DotM stuff hanging around. So, that's a lot of stuff that taking real estate from the two lines that should be there.
I've noticed Wal-Marts particularly tend to do that, Bot Shots was almost all they had for months on end. Target, in my area at least, is better, giving all three lines their own column of the aisle. And of course TRU has enough space to dedicate half an aisle to TF.
Don't feel bad, you did offer, but Scourge beat you to it. He and I traded, I sent him something and he sent me Skywarp.
Ah, ok, good to know. Completely forgot that I'd made that offer to you, I guess even I can forget how kickass I am sometimes. ;)
I do like the look of the FoC Ultra Magnus and you're right, they really did great with the paint job and giving him a new head, I just wasn't that impressed with the mold itself.
Ah, well that I can see. Fair enough!
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Maybe I just need to move. I seriously think there's just something wrong with Sacramento area toy stores. I mean, even when I visit my Aunt and Uncle in Yuba City, sometimes I'll go the TRU out there and I swear it's like night and day. They usually have things there that I'd never find in Sac.
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