andersonh1 wrote:I wasn't too impressed by the CGI in that trailer. The animation used in DS9 and Voyager 15 years ago looked better than that! I hope it's just preliminary.
Yeah, I'm hoping that's just some very early preliminary CGI as well...
I saw Star Trek Beyond yesterday. I have to say it's easily the best of the nuTrek films thus far. Pegg and Jung are much better writers than Orci and Kurtzman. You can tell they actually researched and understand what Star Trek is supposed to be about. Plus there were a ton of references to Enterprise. The Franklin is the one major nitpick I have with the continuity of the film. They say the ship one of the first Warp 4 starships, yet the registry number is NX-326, placing it well after the first Warp 5 ship.
If you haven't heard, CBS is basically running Star Trek Discovery into the ground. They have pushed back the release date to TBD, they have designs that will make nobody happy, they've driven out the showrunner, and they are basically collapsing timelines into themselves to make a disaster. This will be really bad.
See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
Yeah, the news coming out about the problems with production have not been encouraging... It's really disappointing Bryan Fuller left the series. Sounds like the people in charge at CBS have no idea what Star Trek is supposed to be, while everyone is reportedly telling them that fans will hate the designs they've come up with. And this rumored 'trans-dimensional universes' idea sounds terrible.
Yeah cause that worked out so well for Hasbro with their "aligned" continuity... I've actually heard that it's in the hands of some executive who has gone on record as saying that he actually hates Star Trek. Great.
Shockwave wrote:Yeah cause that worked out so well for Hasbro with their "aligned" continuity... I've actually heard that it's in the hands of some executive who has gone on record as saying that he actually hates Star Trek. Great.
I haven't heard that he went on record saying it himself, but basically yeah. Doug Mirabello (who was an assistant to Rick Berman) said in an interview years ago that Leslie Moonves (the current Chairman of CBS) hates all things sci-fi. And others supposedly have said Moonves doesn't even know the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars. Yet Moonves decided to micromanage the new series, and is the one who reportedly forced Byran Fuller out as the showrunner because Moonves wants Discovery to be a sexier new take on Star Trek, like a reboot of the reboot films, rather than something that actually feels like classic Star Trek set in the Prime universe, as Fuller intended the series to be. And now, surprise surprise, everyone is saying that fans will hate everything he's approved of for the series.
I'm sorry to see that this attempt to get Star Trek on tv again is having so many self-inflicted problems. And of course, if the show does crash and burn, it'll be a long time before anyone tries again.
At least I've got the old shows on DVD to watch any time I like.
CBS hasn't ever produced a minute of new Star Trek content since they got the Trek license in a merger that ended up in failure, and it shows why now. They've had this license 12 years and done nothing with it, it's clear they have no interest in developing a valuable property OR a thoughtful sci-fi show. They even were too cheap during the 50th anniversary last year to pay for actor licenses for the commemorative USPS stamps, which left USPS artists scrambling to develop new stamp designs that only used iconography, not the best work. It's a real shame that there isn't someone making decisions who believes in the franchise and has a vision, TV is where Trek really belongs, the Paramount movies aren't able to develop new ideas at this point, only rehash existing ones. Without TV, Trek is truly not going to work.
See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
It baffles me that a CBS executive (Jim Lanzor) said he doesn't believe Star Trek belongs on broadcast television....
“Sci-fi is not something that has traditionally done really well on broadcast,” he explained. “It’s not impossible, for the future, if somebody figures it out. And things like ‘Lost’ and ‘Heroes’ have had parts of, you know, sci-fi, but historically, a show like ‘Star Trek’ wouldn’t necessarily be a broadcast show, at this point.”
Does he not know that there have been plenty of successful sci-fi series on broadcast? Star Trek being one of the best examples of such a successful franchise! The people in charge of CBS clearly have no idea what they've got with Star Trek, or how to do it justice.
If they could get someone to write a good script and treat the characters and situations respectfully, I'd still enjoy seeing a Star Trek movie set in the decades after the end of Voyager that follows up on the crews of all the TNG, DS9 and Voyager series. In some ways it would be like the original Trek movies with Kirk and Spock, and would be a way to catch up on these old characters. I know people used to approach Rick Berman with that idea back in the day and he never saw the point, but after 15 or more years, I'd enjoy seeing Picard or Chakotay or Dr. Bashir again, or whichever actors would be willing to reprise their roles. People used to gripe about Kirk and Spock being too old in the movies, but did anyone really care? It was just nice to see them again, and I think that would be true of the characters from the more recent series.
I've actually heard that it's in the hands of some executive who has gone on record as saying that he actually hates Star Trek. Great. 
