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Sparky Prime wrote:Trekcore.com (
potential Spoiler Warning!) has posted an image of a poster, which a lucky fan was able to win during a fundraiser, which shows a Federation Starship that will appear in the new film. Sharp eyed fans had noticed the name of this ship is seen on a jacket Spock wears in the trailer.
Reminds me a bit of the NX-Class. I hate the viewscreen window on it though. It looks completely disproportionate to the rest of the ship. But then scale is something the nuTrek films have struggled with.
That's an eyesore. The window is confusing, the bridge should be above that thing, but if that were the case it'd be a well-lit, forward-facing shuttlebay, and that's unlikely. The odd pattern seems like something you'd see in a video game, not Trek. The complete and utter lack of any engineering section segmented away from the ship is bizarre, it looks like they're actively trying not to have one, but I suspect there's a small secondary hull underneath that the nacelles are leading to that will make it more Enterprise-shaped, albeit dinky like the Equinox. The cut-away in the back of the saucer is downright nonsense, does this ship not have impulse power? And why the NX-01-style engines after doing something more modern in the previous films? Not a lot of visual continuity.
andersonh1 wrote:So, any of you who indulge in chronological Trek marathons... do you watch every episode of a Trek series, or do you skip the ones you don't like? How do you decide? We're going through Voyager right now, and we've reached the infamous "Threshold". I decided to watch it, because... I don't know. It didn't bother me as much as I remembered. Back when Voyager was on the air, and I remember this clearly, it was the episode that started making me question why I was watching the show. And the sad thing is that it starts out with in interesting premise: breaking the Warp 10 barrier, a seeming impossibility. Then Tom Paris turns into a giant space newt, and so does Janeway, and they have mutant babies, and the whole thing just goes so far off the rails it's amazing to watch. And somehow the physical transformation is reversed so they look exactly like they did before.... one gets the feeling that Braga had a good idea for the episode with the Warp test, had nowhere to go and a deadline, and just wrote the first things that came into his head. Possibly after a night of heavy drinking.
At least he's admitted it was a bad episode. His confession is in the DVD extras for all to see.
All of 'em, following the lesson of Tapestry where every mistake is part of what was, and what was forms what is; although I don't do chronological runs anymore at all now, curating non-chronological draws from every series week after week (this week it's Valentine's Day, and that means Mudd's Passion TAS
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As for Threshold, we recently watched it as part of our Best of the Worst run (it barely lost to TNG - Shades of Gray) and while it's incredibly stupid silly nonsense from just the worst script, I don't think it's particularly worse in other ways than other Voyager episodes, the acting, directing, and production are on par with the rest of the series. The warp ceiling is an utterly incorrect interpretation of some things, making it so silly that they'd bother to pretend it's "everywhere at once" when the future 1701-D goes Warp 14, and they already changed the warp scale between TOS and TNG.
Honestly, after a lot of Thursdays where we're seeing TOS, TNG, and DS9 put up against VOY and ENT, it's become apparent that Brannon Braga is as much to blame as Rick Berman, turning his show into a by-the-numbers interpretation of the lesser elements of TNG: technobabble solutions, overly familiar characters who have already found their groove, and flat space exploration stories alternating with over the top action to create a sense of shallow blandness. Then again, the bloom is off the rose for DS9 too, it's not holding up as well as I had expected.
Shockwave wrote:For me the worst Voyager episode was "elogium". The one where Kes... goes into heat (for lack of a better term). She basically begins her mating cycle... which is just so batshit crazy that you have to wonder how the species didn't die out after two generations and gets even more batshit crazy as the episode goes on. It's one of the things that makes her what I call a "kitchen sink" character. Where they dump every weird thing including the kitchen sink into her. It's also one of the main reasons why I was glad to see her go. It's like they really didn't know what to do with her character. And her return later was just as batshit as she was the rest of the time.
Wow, that one never was on my radar for "worst", I'll have to include it in this year's Best of the Worst list.
Voyager's characters are almost all uniformly blank slates, there's so little character development and growth, it's frustrating, everybody kind of fits that "kitchen sink" thing. The only characters that have arcs are the Doctor and 7 o'Nine.
Almighty Unicron wrote:My girlfriend is a bit of a trekker. To date the only star trek show I've watched a significant amount of is Enterprise.
I like to piss her off by forcing her to call my penis "Captain Archer."
Oh, so it's also limp and useless most of the time?