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Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:07 pm
by 138 Scourge
JediTricks wrote:138 Scourge wrote:I've seen in other fictional things knives that have blades that are "a molecule thick" making them sharp enough to slice through most anything. If you need reasoning for stuff like that, then use that one, I guess.
That one always makes me laugh, the thinner the blade, the more breakable it'll be, and at the least, it'll need more sharpening.
Yeah, often times when I see that it's a flexible thing (like the monofilaments the Libra killer in Top Ten uses), or adamtium or something that's effectively indestructible. I think it's supposed to imply that the edge is a molecule thick, but the rest of the blade just tapers off to that.
Look, I didn't say it wasn't ridiculous.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:46 am
by Gomess
JediTricks wrote:That one always makes me laugh, the thinner the blade, the more breakable it'll be
That's not actually true, depending on the metals and techniques used. There's a difference between thickness, density and fragility when it comes to a weapon. Just sayin'.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:47 pm
by JediTricks
138 Scourge wrote:Yeah, often times when I see that it's a flexible thing (like the monofilaments the Libra killer in Top Ten uses), or adamtium or something that's effectively indestructible. I think it's supposed to imply that the edge is a molecule thick, but the rest of the blade just tapers off to that.
Look, I didn't say it wasn't ridiculous.
I've seen both in fiction, entire blades themselves a molecule thick, and just the edge. But both are utterly ridiculous since even the strongest known materials wouldn't hold up once to cold butter at that thickness.
Gomess wrote:JediTricks wrote:That one always makes me laugh, the thinner the blade, the more breakable it'll be
That's not actually true, depending on the metals and techniques used. There's a difference between thickness, density and fragility when it comes to a weapon. Just sayin'.
I have to assume you're comparing apples and oranges with that statement, essentially saying "a 1mm-thick diamond blade is stronger than a 5mm pig iron blade". I'm talking about within the same "recipe" of a blade (same material and same type of forging and same general shape), making it thinner and giving it a finer edge can only make it more breakable. There is no material that gets STRONGER the thinner it is honed to.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:54 pm
by Gomess
Ok, you weren't that specific the first time around.
You're still dodging my point that humans don't just equip themselves with tigers' claws, though. =p In all likelihood, the TFs' weapons are Made of Sterner Stuff than their bodies, and modifying themselves isn't as easy as modifying an inanimate weapon.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:09 pm
by Shockwave
I stand by what I said about configuration.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:14 pm
by Tigermegatron
since transformers do have hand to hand combat,knives,swords,blades,make perfect sense.
Sometimes the standard hand guns & riffles can be a bit booring.
I prefer they mix it up with hand held weapons.
I liked G-1 Megatron ball & chain weapon. primes ax weapon. The chinese stars the Brave shadow maru toy came with. animated oilslick chain weapon.
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:35 pm
by Gomess
Tigermegatron wrote:The chinese stars the Brave shadowmaru toy came with
Tigermegatron wrote:The chinese stars the Brave shadowmaru toy came with
Tigermegatron wrote:The chinese stars the Brave shadowmaru toy came with
?!?!?!?
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:11 am
by Onslaught Six
It's Deathy. Are you really surprised? Like...at all?
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:21 am
by Gomess
Ok, by massive coincidence I just watched a video of James Rolfe's where he uses the same term, I guess it's relatively widespread in the US, but jesus fuck. I can't remember the last time I heard such a 70s-sounding culturally insensitive term used so casually. It's like calling a good British steak and kidney pie a "French meatcake". There's no excuse for this shit in the Information Age. Even Wikipedia knows shuriken are Japanese.
Anyway...
Re: What is with all the bladed weapons, they make no sense
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:39 am
by Onslaught Six
Yeah, I don't know either. Rolfe I give a pass on because he's funny and generally appears intelligent about other things; he's just ignorant on details sometimes, or even dumbs things down when he thinks it'll go over an audience's head. For example, he might actually know they're shuriken but he might go "But who the fuck is going to know what a shuriken is if I say that? I'll just say Chinese ninja stars."