Pics of tanker truck toy surface.

[Onslaught Six]

It implies the *Decepticons* haven't been there more than a few months; it says nothing of Bumblebee, who could have been there for years.

Anyway!

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ed-171179/

We're getting...a new Voyager Prime? Or is he the same one that shipped with Banzaitron, just horribly mistransformed? And apparently...a leader Bumblebee. I hope that means we'll get a Supreme Prime with trailer stuff or something. And we *need* a Leader Shockwave, prefebly in the first wave.

[Shockwave]

And we *need* a Leader Shockwave, prefebly in the first wave.

I would agree (obviously) but we arguably should have had a Leader Fallen for ROTF given that he was the main villain in that and all we got was Voyager.

[Sparky Prime]

It implies the *Decepticons* haven't been there more than a few months; it says nothing of Bumblebee, who could have been there for years.

So you'd argue it took Bumblebee years to find the exact same information the Decepticons find in just 3 months? That the Autobots just wait for years for Bumblebee to signal that he found what they were looking for? No, that doesn't add up. Given the context in the movie, it's indicated Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots probably arrived in Earth's solar system around the same time as the Decepticons, a few months before the events in the movie, not years.

[Shockwave]

It implies the *Decepticons* haven't been there more than a few months; it says nothing of Bumblebee, who could have been there for years.

So you'd argue it took Bumblebee years to find the exact same information the Decepticons find in just 3 months? That the Autobots just wait for years for Bumblebee to signal that he found what they were looking for? No, that doesn't add up. Given the context in the movie, it's indicated Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots probably arrived in Earth's solar system around the same time as the Decepticons, a few months before the events in the movie, not years.

LOL Yeah, then Bumblebee would have been beat up from old age having been Sam's father's first car, not Sam's

[BWprowl]

It implies the *Decepticons* haven't been there more than a few months; it says nothing of Bumblebee, who could have been there for years.

Anyway!

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ed-171179/

We're getting...a new Voyager Prime? Or is he the same one that shipped with Banzaitron, just horribly mistransformed? And apparently...a leader Bumblebee. I hope that means we'll get a Supreme Prime with trailer stuff or something. And we *need* a Leader Shockwave, prefebly in the first wave.

Good LORD these people can't transform stuff for pics worth a damn. It took some serious squinting for me to figure out that that HA Stealth Bumblebee is the same mold as the old one, just mangled within an inch of its life. That Optimus does look like a new Voyager though, which is weird, since the one we just got for ROTF is just fine. This one doesn't look much like Prime at all, unless he's getting a significant redesign for DOTM.

What I'm really loving, personally, is that smaller Human Alliance looking dude, with the little artillery mode. That's sweet and I hope there's more like him.

So what's this Cyberverse thing the Legends seem to be part of now? Playsets or somesuch? I can dig it. This generation's toys have really been hurting for cool playsets.