ROTF Review Thread

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Dominic wrote:

Depthcharge (robot/boat): As has been mentioned by others, this is an Autobot boat. Some people are buying it just for the novelty of having a rare (especially for the faction) alternate form. The robot looks more like a late-run "Cybertron" toy than a move figure. The vehicle mode definitely would be better as a larger toy. (It is basically a heavily armed coastal partrol boat.)
I kinda bought him just because he was a boat, but really, faction didn't have so much to do with it. He just looked neat.

But, I disagree on the "late Cybertron" thing. I mean, late Cybertron brought us Shortround, who is odd lookin', to be sure (but so friggin' rad for that, I even got both versions of the mold, and that's rare for me). But Depthcharge has the weird-lookin' head and the multiple-jointed legs that scream "movie aesthetic". Cybertron at least kept most of it's characters looking sorta humanoid in 'bot mode. Okay, other than Undermine, but beyond that...

Now Ransack, him I could see being a late-Cybertron sorta guy.
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andersonh1 wrote:$8.50 for a basic? You've got to be kidding me. And that's the Wal-mart price. I'm sure they'll be more at Target or TRU.
Actually, Basics are 8 bucks at Target. Deluxes are 12, FABs are 13 (a big 'Huh?', in my opinion), Voyagers are 22, and Leaders are 42. I'm actually a bit relieved, I thought the price hike was going to be much larger.

Anyway, I got Depth Charge tonight, and he's in front of me, so I'll review him:

Robot mode: He has a wide stance. :roll: Seriously though, he's a nifty little robot with articulation in spades for his size class, though he can't make the most out of it. Legs are particularly tricky, as they're digitigrade, with big boat-halve feet that have to splay to the sides to work properly. Arms are good though, with double elbows, hunged thumbs, bicep swivels, ball shoulders, and jointed shoulder armor. Also, the rocket pods are on ball joints to let them aim, which is awesome. The head's really restricted, but the piece it's attached to is a bit loose, meaning his head has a lot of wiggle to it, which is a bit irritating. Still, a really neat little robot mode.

Attack Mode: Okay, when I saw this listed in the instructions, I figured this was a case of the long-honored tradition of instruction writers making crap up as they went along. But he actually has a *lot* of parts built into his legs for this mode; it's very clearly intentional. It's also worlds of awesome. No, seriously. As far as I can tell, the intention is to let him zoom across the water in robot mode, shoulder-missling everything in sight. It's very Vehicon-esque, and this is a good thing. Kudos to whoever on the design team though this one up, it's a very welcome inclusion.

Transformation: Not terribly complicated; the big shell-feet form most of the boat, thought there's some intuitive twisting and turning thereof.

Boat Mode: It's...a cute little Coast Guard boat. Feels a little hollow, as the legs don't quite fill up the whole of the shell pieces, and I wish the back section wasn't so darn loose, but otherwise it does what it has to do, which is...look like a boat. And the missle pods can still angle, which is nice. Could use a bit more paint though, there's TONS of little molded details all over this thing, with nary an application to bring them out. Ah well. Oh, and in the very top cockpit-esque section, there's a sizeable gap, with little pegholes on either end. Mysteeeeeeeerious. Must be one of those 'Abandoned Features' that all the ROTF toys have as a line-wide gimmick.

Overall: A fun little boat, and the people snapping this one up on the novelty won't be disappointed by the toy itself. Hn, at least all the novel ROTF Basics are the fun ones.

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Attack Mode? Please describe, as I've temporarily misplaced the instructions for this fella and that sounds SO RAD!
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Pretty simple. Twist the waist around 180 degrees. Now fold his heel-shells out one click (you can see the notch for this. It's just in front of the notch that's there for vehicle mode.) Now rotate the feet out so they're perpendicular to the legs. Then twist the legs at the mid-thight swivel so the front of the boat-parts are pointing straight ahead, and stand him up on them. Basically, he's using his boat-halve feet as skiis. Like some water-based version of Bonecrusher, almost. With kickass rocket pods. Christ I love this little guy.
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Oh, man, oh man. That is, in fact completely friggin' rad.

I already liked the hell outta this guy, but this completely sells it.

Note to self: Do not misplace any more instructions. They can, apparently, be useful..
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Okay, I'll give it more detail tomorrow, while I let it gestate, but I have to say now that I almost COMPLETELY disagree with JT on Rampage. Bulldozer mode is fine, with one floppy, poorly-designed piece, and the jackhammer mode is a laughable write-off, but his robot mode is WORLDS OF AWESOME! He's a kickass, four-legged, spider-beast robotthing, and he rules. His head even has spider elements incorporated into it, and I can easily see them envisioning the tread-whips as web-type things. No elbows sucks, but this four-legged monstrosity just looks so awesome otherwise that I can't hate him. I really hope that this is how he's presented in the movie, as opposed to pogo-jackhammer mode. God he just looks so fucking cool.

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BWprowl wrote:-BW "Turns out Soundwave is the one who really sucks" prowl
Called it!

Sooo I really really want Depthcharge now. Curse you all, I already had no monies this week after buying Fallen. Attack Mode sounds worlds of nifty. Fie! Fie I say!
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Now I'm hearing conflict on Rampage! Time to wait for more people to buy him before making a decision.

Who am I kidding? I'll get him anyway.

Did anyone get Demolishor? I've been wondering if his shovelhands are held on by screws, and if I can undo those and swap it around so his robot mode looks (slightly) better.
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RPMs Bumblebee (Commander Series) - um, it's a Hot Wheels-style car with a painted robot mode sculpt embossed onto the undercarriage. Wow. And they even painted his name under the sculpting. Packaging is clever, shows off everything and carries character over well. Vehicle mode is fairly accurate but could be a little sharper and not so tall. Wheels are too narrow. Underside sculpt reminds me of wall sculptings, no pretense of filling the whole undercarriage. Colors are good. Car is from first movie, no hood scoop. Stands on its tail well. No die-cast hurts. Rolls fairly well. Compared to the Hot Wheels Camaro, it's indentations around the midsection are less shapely, and its haunches aren't as bold, the front end isn't as bold, rear window isn't as defined, and it has no interior; its only advantage is the movie-accurate wheels and paint (minus the Autobot logo on the hood).
Rampage01 wrote:I don't think think Rampage is that bad. I can certainly see room for improvements, but from what I see in my short time with it (just found 'em at Wal-Mart), its a neat little toy. Of course, since he seems to be an homage to my namesake, I'm perhaps a bit biased.

Or maybe I just have bad taste.
Or maybe both. ;) Nah, but what do you think is neat about it?

Dominic wrote:Soooooo.......would this be a bad time to mention that Rampage and possibly the other Constructicons might be troop-builders? No, really. Read the adaptations.
They explained about how
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the Constructions can build larger and larger simply by adding more guys
in the Hasbro Sunday panel, it sounded stupid to me.
Sideways is worth getting. I will fiddle and review more later. Beware of paint schmootzing thoug.
I'm definitely holding off for Dead End, the repaint/retool, that thing looked great in the booth.
I have noticed plenty of "left a piece out" trouble with toys I have picked up, across several price points.
I don't understand what you mean.
Chromia: The blue she-cycle does not look like it combines. And, as with the first movie's Arcee, it is way too big. It looks like Hasbro's plan is to release 3 recolors of one toy as the same character and to make people buy them. I Am skipping this one.
Chromia, Arcee, and 3rd bike that's a repaint of Arcee do have a combination system worked out already in the toyline,
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but Hasbro said the combiner bike thing has been dropped from the film anyway
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BWprowl wrote:Okay, I'll give it more detail tomorrow, while I let it gestate, but I have to say now that I almost COMPLETELY disagree with JT on Rampage. Bulldozer mode is fine, with one floppy, poorly-designed piece, and the jackhammer mode is a laughable write-off,
So far, you aren't COMPLETELY disagreeing with me on Rampage. :p
but his robot mode is WORLDS OF AWESOME! He's a kickass, four-legged, spider-beast robotthing, and he rules. His head even has spider elements incorporated into it, and I can easily see them envisioning the tread-whips as web-type things.
Wow, I think there's a serious lack of reality in that claim. He's a kickass what thing? IMO, he looks like a 2-legged robot that had 2 unrelated legs slapped onto the back because he doesn't have feet. And that spiderweb/whip thing isn't even tenuous, it's all in yer head, me bucko. It kinda reminds me of Dr. Loveless in the Wild Wild West movie, and not in a good way, in a "half a guy slapped onto unrelated legs" way. So what ELSE about this mode do you like besides the spider element which we don't agree on is that solid? What specifically works besides those interpretations stated, is what I mean.

Onslaught Six wrote:Now I'm hearing conflict on Rampage! Time to wait for more people to buy him before making a decision.

Who am I kidding? I'll get him anyway.
Sucker. :p
Did anyone get Demolishor? I've been wondering if his shovelhands are held on by screws, and if I can undo those and swap it around so his robot mode looks (slightly) better.
His elbows are screws, should be reversible from there. But man, this toy sucks ass through a cock straw. So few parts, so little going on even for a Voyager, just lame as shit. Save your money, especially if you're going to piss it away on crap like Rampage, at least that thing has tons of parts and creative failure, Demolishor is lame and bores.
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JediTricks wrote:Wow, I think there's a serious lack of reality in that claim. He's a kickass what thing? IMO, he looks like a 2-legged robot that had 2 unrelated legs slapped onto the back because he doesn't have feet. And that spiderweb/whip thing isn't even tenuous, it's all in yer head, me bucko. It kinda reminds me of Dr. Loveless in the Wild Wild West movie, and not in a good way, in a "half a guy slapped onto unrelated legs" way. So what ELSE about this mode do you like besides the spider element which we don't agree on is that solid? What specifically works besides those interpretations stated, is what I mean.
Well how are you posing his front legs? If you've got them going straight, more like 'regular' legs, then yeah the look isn't really going to come out (and you'll have that problem you mentioned with his head pointing up). But bend them at the knees, and he levels out. The upper torso winds up positioned more in the center for a bit of centaur feel, and the whole look works better.

Now, after a bit more fiddle time, I'll concede that this toy does have problems. No elbows still sucks, and the elbow hinges are a bit loose and limited. Also, front legs are limited by the springs in their knee hinges. But frankly, the look and design of the figure appeals to me so much, that I can forgive this. If they make a repaint, I'll probably buy that one too, since it won't be all yellow, which is another admitted problem.

I guess this is one of those inexplicable favorites, where I know the toy has tons of issues, but I love it anyway. In that case, it requires the disclaimer that your mileage may differ significantly.
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