Money, violence, sex, computer graphics, scatalogical humor, racism, robots designed to be rednecks but given European accents, and maybe another sequel to the saga... what's not to love? TF m1, Revenge of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon and now Age of Extinction.
JediTricks wrote:Actually, they didn't even have that many deluxes anymore, and they're not likely to order more with pegs stuffed with Power Attackers.
See, that's another thing! If all the pegs are clogged up with mis-shelved Power Attackers, which look exactly like Deluxes to employees, then new stock won't get put out as quickly, new waves won't be ordered consistently (any more than they already weren't, of course), and this runs the risk of actual Deluxes simply disappearing for no real reason, because no one even knew they were gone or not there in the first place. Jesus, this becomes more of a disaster the more you think about it.
I expect a dickload of a questions about this at BotCon. I wonder if Hasbro has any clue yet how badly they screwed up on this? I can all but guarantee lower sales/orders of Deluxes thanks to this situation.
Onslaught Six wrote:One Walmart near me doesn't even have any of the regular Deluxes.
Ditto. Though I didn't even see tags for them, so I wonder if Wal-Mart isn't just passing on Generations altogether. That store's been a TF wasteland for years.
JediTricks wrote:Actually, they didn't even have that many deluxes anymore, and they're not likely to order more with pegs stuffed with Power Attackers.
See, that's another thing! If all the pegs are clogged up with mis-shelved Power Attackers, which look exactly like Deluxes to employees, then new stock won't get put out as quickly, new waves won't be ordered consistently (any more than they already weren't, of course), and this runs the risk of actual Deluxes simply disappearing for no real reason, because no one even knew they were gone or not there in the first place. Jesus, this becomes more of a disaster the more you think about it.
I expect a dickload of a questions about this at BotCon. I wonder if Hasbro has any clue yet how badly they screwed up on this? I can all but guarantee lower sales/orders of Deluxes thanks to this situation.
Onslaught Six wrote:One Walmart near me doesn't even have any of the regular Deluxes.
Ditto. Though I didn't even see tags for them, so I wonder if Wal-Mart isn't just passing on Generations altogether. That store's been a TF wasteland for years.
One Walmart near me had this 3 sided end cap that was full of AOE TF4 toys. I saw dozens of Generations Deluxes,Generations voyager,leader optims and most of those one step flip changers, titans and those dino riders. Generations AOE Leader Grimlock appears to be a quick seller,So he was sold out. There was also AOE toys in the main aisle.
My local TRU store had a huge display in the front of the store and a big display in the main aisle dedicated to the TF4 AOE toys. I saw everything minus Leader Grimlock. TRU had some newer stuff I never saw before like those Hero Smashers.
I didn't buy anything today,Since I'm just buying all of the TF 4 Generations Dinobots toys and probably thats it. A month+ ago,I already got AOE Grimlock,Deluxe Generations Scorn & Generations Deluxe Slug. Waiting for the Other TF4 Generations Dinobots to get released.
I just thought of something. Maybe this isn't a mistake.
Maybe hasbro is trying to kill the deluxe price point. Maybe they deliberately designed the boxes to be identical to the shitty figures so they would get low sales, and the next franchise (I guess the upcoming RID show?) they can say that deluxes don't sell, and eliminate the price point? The fact that deluxes have gone up in price and shrank in size a lot recently makes me feel that the price point is really hard for Hasbro to keep profitable: so they're looking for an excuse to axe it and sell more figs with a higher profit margin, which I guess would be Voyagers and up and also shitty, simple toys like the power attack one.
Almighty Unicron wrote:I just thought of something. Maybe this isn't a mistake.
Maybe hasbro is trying to kill the deluxe price point. Maybe they deliberately designed the boxes to be identical to the shitty figures so they would get low sales, and the next franchise (I guess the upcoming RID show?) they can say that deluxes don't sell, and eliminate the price point? The fact that deluxes have gone up in price and shrank in size a lot recently makes me feel that the price point is really hard for Hasbro to keep profitable: so they're looking for an excuse to axe it and sell more figs with a higher profit margin, which I guess would be Voyagers and up and also shitty, simple toys like the power attack one.
This is silly for a multitude of reasons. Ignoring the fact that prices on Deluxes haven't gone up more than anything else in the universe has (because, you know, inflation) and that the actual sizes of Deluxes has been all over the board since the size class was introduced in 1994 and the AoE stuff is still perfectly in line with the 'average' of the class, there's also the fact that Hasbro, being the owners of the line, the guys who run the show, don't need an 'excuse' to do anything with it, let alone stop making a particular size class. They'd just go "Herpaderp we're not makin' Deluxes anymore!" and then stop making them, just the way they did with Megas, and Basics, and Ultras, and any number of ancillary action figure classifications. The notion of a calculated anti-Deluxe conspiracy carried out in secret is just...goofy.
Almighty Unicron wrote:I just thought of something. Maybe this isn't a mistake.
Maybe hasbro is trying to kill the deluxe price point. Maybe they deliberately designed the boxes to be identical to the shitty figures so they would get low sales, and the next franchise (I guess the upcoming RID show?) they can say that deluxes don't sell, and eliminate the price point? The fact that deluxes have gone up in price and shrank in size a lot recently makes me feel that the price point is really hard for Hasbro to keep profitable: so they're looking for an excuse to axe it and sell more figs with a higher profit margin, which I guess would be Voyagers and up and also shitty, simple toys like the power attack one.
This is silly for a multitude of reasons. Ignoring the fact that prices on Deluxes haven't gone up more than anything else in the universe has (because, you know, inflation) and that the actual sizes of Deluxes has been all over the board since the size class was introduced in 1994 and the AoE stuff is still perfectly in line with the 'average' of the class, there's also the fact that Hasbro, being the owners of the line, the guys who run the show, don't need an 'excuse' to do anything with it, let alone stop making a particular size class. They'd just go "Herpaderp we're not makin' Deluxes anymore!" and then stop making them, just the way they did with Megas, and Basics, and Ultras, and any number of ancillary action figure classifications. The notion of a calculated anti-Deluxe conspiracy carried out in secret is just...goofy.
But they haven't stopped making megas and basics- they're just "voyager" and "cyberverse" now.
Almighty Unicron wrote:I just thought of something. Maybe this isn't a mistake.
Maybe hasbro is trying to kill the deluxe price point. Maybe they deliberately designed the boxes to be identical to the shitty figures so they would get low sales, and the next franchise (I guess the upcoming RID show?) they can say that deluxes don't sell, and eliminate the price point? The fact that deluxes have gone up in price and shrank in size a lot recently makes me feel that the price point is really hard for Hasbro to keep profitable: so they're looking for an excuse to axe it and sell more figs with a higher profit margin, which I guess would be Voyagers and up and also shitty, simple toys like the power attack one.
This is silly for a multitude of reasons. Ignoring the fact that prices on Deluxes haven't gone up more than anything else in the universe has (because, you know, inflation) and that the actual sizes of Deluxes has been all over the board since the size class was introduced in 1994 and the AoE stuff is still perfectly in line with the 'average' of the class, there's also the fact that Hasbro, being the owners of the line, the guys who run the show, don't need an 'excuse' to do anything with it, let alone stop making a particular size class. They'd just go "Herpaderp we're not makin' Deluxes anymore!" and then stop making them, just the way they did with Megas, and Basics, and Ultras, and any number of ancillary action figure classifications. The notion of a calculated anti-Deluxe conspiracy carried out in secret is just...goofy.
But they haven't stopped making megas and basics- they're just "voyager" and "cyberverse" now.
Hasbro isn't releasing any basics/scouts/commanders for the AOE TF4 toy line.
Hasbro stopped releasing the $14.99 Mega sized TF toys years ago.
Please, No nonsense saying stuff like the $14,99 Mega sized TF toys evolved into the $20 Voyagers. Or further nonsense that the Deluxes are so small and the commanders are so exspensive that the commanders evolved into todays deluxes. I won't be taking part in such a debate. If anyone else wants to feel free to discuss this to infinity.
Voyagers have had the weirdest production cycle--there were "Megas" in Armada and Energon but they were at the $20 pricepoint rather than $15 in BW/BM/RID. Then they kind of balooned up in size during Energon and Cybertron, and then shrunk back down around ROTF. Compare Movie Ratchet to, say, Bludgeon.
Hasbro did actually have an "excuse" as to why they canned the Ultra price point; I seem to remember lots of talk of it overlapping too much with the $20 Megas/Voyagers.
BWprowl wrote:The internet having this many different words to describe nerdy folks is akin to the whole eskimos/ice situation, I would presume.
People spend so much time worrying about whether a figure is "mint" or not that they never stop to consider other flavours.
Almighty Unicron wrote:I just thought of something. Maybe this isn't a mistake.
Maybe hasbro is trying to kill the deluxe price point. Maybe they deliberately designed the boxes to be identical to the shitty figures so they would get low sales, and the next franchise (I guess the upcoming RID show?) they can say that deluxes don't sell, and eliminate the price point? The fact that deluxes have gone up in price and shrank in size a lot recently makes me feel that the price point is really hard for Hasbro to keep profitable: so they're looking for an excuse to axe it and sell more figs with a higher profit margin, which I guess would be Voyagers and up and also shitty, simple toys like the power attack one.
That's pretty far-fetched, they're already selling figures with a higher profit margin, they simply lowered the costs on Generations deluxes while raising their prices (and apparently the price is going up ANOTHER buck this fall), and the Generations products sell while the Power Battlers are slower. Moreover, at Botcon they teased the new non-movie Generations packaging for 2015 which will have a similar but decidedly different look (the tease didn't show much, but I think the white "Transformers" band will be black and of course it'll come with a comic). Axing the Deluxe pricepoint would be suicide, it's their bread-and-butter pricepoint again.
See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
