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Oh, I see where you're going. BW doesn't count, then, because of that.

Mind, I suppose we could probably throw Cybertron in there, kind of.

Dominic wrote:Dude, you are way too optimistic about what people know and do not know.

I don't think I am here. I just can't believe that even the ignorant celebrities with their private security wouldn't know (to SOME degree) who or what the police are.

I mentioned it, but Sparky discussed it.

I discussed it because you mentioned it.

Sparky Prime wrote:

Dominic wrote:Dude, you are way too optimistic about what people know and do not know.

I don't think I am here. I just can't believe that even the ignorant celebrities with their private security wouldn't know (to SOME degree) who or what the police are.

But we don't know just what services the Autobots are providing, or how widespread they are at all. All we ever really see is the viewpoint from people who are either 'already in' the Autobots or are 'about to become' Autobots. For all we know, the Autobots operated primarily in Iacon and Blurr's races all take place in Cybertropolis or whatever, so he could've never heard of them.

Onslaught Six wrote:But we don't know just what services the Autobots are providing, or how widespread they are at all. All we ever really see is the viewpoint from people who are either 'already in' the Autobots or are 'about to become' Autobots. For all we know, the Autobots operated primarily in Iacon and Blurr's races all take place in Cybertropolis or whatever, so he could've never heard of them.

Read "Megatron: Origin". We see the Autobots providing security to Senator Decimus in the first issue. Through the rest of the mini-series, we see them investigating Megatron's movements as well as the underground gladiatorial combat games, ultimately arresting them all. And finally they are the security force that fights back when the Decepticons start their uprising. The impression that I get from that mini-series is that the Autobots provide all of Cybertron's security needs.

Sparky Prime wrote:Read "Megatron: Origin". We see the Autobots providing security to Senator Decimus in the first issue. Through the rest of the mini-series, we see them investigating Megatron's movements as well as the underground gladiatorial combat games, ultimately arresting them all. And finally they are the security force that fights back when the Decepticons start their uprising. The impression that I get from that mini-series is that the Autobots provide all of Cybertron's security needs.

One of those was protecting an important political leader. The other two are exclusively related to underground rebel movements associated with Megatron.

We 'never' see anything that says Blurr would be involved with any of that, so why would he even know? The point is, Blurr's a dumbass and doesn't give a damn about anything but racing and getting high and/or drunk.

On another note, nothing in this comic implies Blurr's got his speedy speech impediment, which is one of the cool parts about Blurr.

Onslaught Six wrote:We 'never' see anything that says Blurr would be involved with any of that, so why would he even know? The point is, Blurr's a dumbass and doesn't give a damn about anything but racing and getting high and/or drunk.

We see Starscream approach Blurr at the bar, inviting him to join the Decepticons. Although Blurr doesn't accept, that does indirectly involve him.

Or a more speculative approach, as you say given the bots are getting high/drunk at the bar, I wouldn't be surprised if some brawls haven't broken out before. As such, for all we know, they'd have to call in the Autobots to break up those fights. Being a famous celebrity himself, Blurr would probably need some security for some special events, which could be Autobots for all we know. Blurr might only care about racing and parties, but he should certainly be aware of the Autobots on some level.

Sparky Prime wrote:We see Starscream approach Blurr at the bar, inviting him to join the Decepticons. Although Blurr doesn't accept, that does indirectly involve him.

...and this is *after* he already knows what the Autobots are. Or at least is aware of their existance. Also remember that Blurr doesn't even know what their logo looks like and confuses Starscream for an Autobot.

Or a more speculative approach, as you say given the bots are getting high/drunk at the bar, I wouldn't be surprised if some brawls haven't broken out before. As such, for all we know, they'd have to call in the Autobots to break up those fights. Being a famous celebrity himself, Blurr would probably need some security for some special events, which could be Autobots for all we know. Blurr might only care about racing and parties, but he should certainly be aware of the Autobots on some level.

But that's all it is--speculation--and it has no basis. You lose! Good day to you, sir!

Onslaught Six wrote:...and this is *after* he already knows what the Autobots are. Or at least is aware of their existance. Also remember that Blurr doesn't even know what their logo looks like and confuses Starscream for an Autobot.

Blurr was shown the Autobot logo earlier though when Piston told told him he was joining them. Apparently Blurr doesn't remember what it looked like though. This is more than ignorance then. Blurr is just an idiot who doesn't remember anything.

But that's all it is--speculation--and it has no basis. You lose! Good day to you, sir!

Despite being speculation I still think it's relevant. It's part of real life.

Sparky Prime wrote:

Onslaught Six wrote:...and this is *after* he already knows what the Autobots are. Or at least is aware of their existance. Also remember that Blurr doesn't even know what their logo looks like and confuses Starscream for an Autobot.

Blurr was shown the Autobot logo earlier though when Piston told told him he was joining them. Apparently Blurr doesn't remember what it looked like though. This is more than ignorance then. Blurr is just an idiot who doesn't remember anything.

We're not given any indication how long it is between the races being shut down and Blurr showing up at the empty bar. I assumed it was, at the least, several weeks, since I doubt the bar would go from full to empty in a day.

But that's all it is--speculation--and it has no basis. You lose! Good day to you, sir!

Despite being speculation I still think it's relevant. It's part of real life.

Real 'human' life. We don't know how domestic disputes like rowdy parties are solved in pre-war Cybertron. For all we know, they just devolve into gunfights and the Autobots don't get involved. As I've pointed out, the only time in Megs Origin that they actually show up are either protecting important politicians or in direct combat with clearly illegal underground boxing clubs [/Fight Club dialogue reference] or with insane terrorist organizations.

Onslaught Six wrote:We're not given any indication how long it is between the races being shut down and Blurr showing up at the empty bar. I assumed it was, at the least, several weeks, since I doubt the bar would go from full to empty in a day.

We're not given any indication when Piston told Blurr he was leaving to join the Autobots either. For all we know, that could have been a couple weeks after the races were shut down as well.

Real 'human' life. We don't know how domestic disputes like rowdy parties are solved in pre-war Cybertron. For all we know, they just devolve into gunfights and the Autobots don't get involved. As I've pointed out, the only time in Megs Origin that they actually show up are either protecting important politicians or in direct combat with clearly illegal underground boxing clubs [/Fight Club dialogue reference] or with insane terrorist organizations.

Protecting a politician, combating underground fight clubs and fighting terrorism are very different jobs. On Earth, those would each be handled by different agencies. On Cybertron, all we've got is Autobots. Which again is why I'm lead to believe the Autobots are in charge of all the levels of law enforcement on Cybertron.