Re: Robots in Diguise (IDW ongoing series)
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:26 am
Yeah, and they all got chased out before the big reveal in this issue. What even was the point of Arcee sending Swindle and Dirge to lead Bumblebee and co. over to the Black Room? So Megatron and the bad guys would have someone to monologue their evil plan to?Dominic wrote:Most of that is still there. Besides the above point about Prowl making a deal with Starscream earlier, there are other characters who tried to move beyond factionalism. Skybite, Blurr, Dirge and Swindle all tried to move on.
About the *only* thing Prowl ‘did’ before Bombshell took over was assassinate Ratbat. All the *important* Prowl stuff, the story driving, character-elevating, shock-and-awe moments have been undone as nothing more than a shaggy dog story, a prolonged look at “look how evil and brilliant Bombshell and Megatron are! We totally got you! Aren’t we clever?!”And, that was kind of the point. Prowl was well on his way to becoming something similar to Megatron.
Prowl being mind-controlled only undoes *some* of what he did. As it stands now, Prowl more than set the ground-work for Megatron to return and rise to power. Prowl had the Decepticons, all of the most likely troublemakers, relagated to a ghetto. Prowl created incentive for fraud and subterfuge among a population that he was willing to use as a make-shift security force. Prowl wanted the war over on his terms, NAILS be damned. And, that was all *before* issue 4.
This *might* have been easier to swallow had Bombshell’s influence only subtly tweaked Prowl’s worldview, simply pushed him further over the deep end than he would have gone on his own, while still accounting for his own personality problems as already established, kinda like the Vehicon Generals. Instead, it’s revealed that Bombshell was basically totally remote-controlling Prowl all along, and NONE of it was his fault.
Exactly, meaning we would have had very good reason to watch him do the things we thought he was doing. Instead, that got cockblocked and tossed out the window to watch a stupid pointless puppet enact part of a circuitous bad-guy plot to TAKE OVER THE PLANET for ten issues.Right before Bombshell subverted Prowl, Prowl was ruminating about his dealings with Spike Witwicky and how that renewed and valideted his cynical outlook.
You mean the way we thought he was going to make use of Prowl’s motivations and the breakdown of the factions over the past 14 issues? Yeah, fuck that guy.And, most importantly, it is a damned safe bet that Roberts will be making use of this over the next few issues at least.
No no, we *thought* that’s what he was doing. But at the end of this bait-and-switch ball-kick, the Decepticons are all back together (even Starscream’s been forcefully shuffled back in) working together to destroy the puny Autobots once and for all, the Autobots are reunited in their purpose and even Prowl was never really a bad guy, and it’s been revealed that ALL of the dissention that had been sown previously doesn’t count anyway, since it was all built off of a stupid mind-control plot by Megatron and Bombshell, and that’s gone now so we don’t have to worry about moral ambiguity making us uncomfortable.Barber has blurred the faction lines with his run on the book.
And this would all be great if, you know, this had had anything to do with where the book appeared to be going for the past year and change. Except Megatron only came back in like two issues ago, gestalt technology wasn’t even mentioned until THIS ISSUE, and all the important theming elements of the book we THOUGHT we were following not only got tossed out as the faction lines were aggressively re-asserted in this one, they’ve retroactively told us that those elements never really counted in the first place!"Peace through tyranny."
The merge-tech is a literal manifestatio of that idea. Megatron is the state completely consuming the individual. It is the nightmare dark-side of Hobbes' "Leviathan". It is an illustration of every Marxist/Maoist nightmare scenario. Megatron rightly fought against the Functionists at the start of the war, and he has become something far worse.
And, it is strongly implied that Megatron is consistently excerting some degree of subtle control over the other Decepticons, making him a literal and symbolic leader. Think about how the Decepticons collapsed at the end of AHM.
“Socio-political unrest? Bigotry and privilege on the part of entitled Autobots? Parallels to the beginning of the war with an implied cycle of conflict amongst the race? Lol, just kidding, this was actually a story about Megatron mind-controlling everyone the whole time! Now watch the Autobots wage their battles to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons!”
Nope, he had a NEFARIOUS PLOT all along! And he didn’t grow at all, he totally sucks! Didn’t you see Megatron telling him he sucks because he didn’t act like a stereotypical Decepticon that the audience would be comfortable reading about?Arcee will likely get more explication next issue. Starscream wanted to be in charge. But, he also wanted the war to end and likely would have grown in to leadership. Starscream is cynical. But, he consistently grew as a leader.
Getting through it once was painful enough.Wow. Seriously? Reread this issue.
Most of the other Decepticons in the Black Room look like they were rebuilt/upgraded since we last saw them. Buzzsaw is no exception.-When did Buzzsaw have a chance to "upgrade" to his "Fall of Cybertron" body? In issue 13, he was still using his old body. (Laserbeak would have needed to be rebuilt. Did something happen to Buzzsaw?)
No, it wasn’t. After issue 4, it completely ceases to be Prowl and is actually Bombshell in the driver seat this entire time. That’s what mainly kills me about this, what we got wasn’t even poor character development, it was fake character development, retroactively making everything we watched Prowl go through in the past ten issues a complete waste of time.-I recall many complaints at the AllSpark about Sunstreaker not being under mind-control in AHM. ("Bawwww, an Autobot would not turn!") Now, I am seeing complaints about the fact that Prowl's turn was partially influenced by Bombshell (despite the face that much of it was in fact Prowl).
He *could* have done something great. He had the opportunity to write something brilliant, and subversive, and interesting, that used the characters and the setting as he’s redefined it for over a year to really change the way we look at these characters and their factions. Instead, he wrote a stupid 80’s cartoon plot where the bad guys use mind control and have an evil superweapon they pull out of nowhere at the end so all the good guys can rush in and fight it together.Dom
-notes that Barber has done something great here...
Look, maybe I misinterpreted this turd of a story all along, and only I thought I was reading something deeper than I was. Or maybe Barber chickened out at the last second and decided that he just couldn’t take subverting the status quo in the unique, interesting ways he was doing, so he panicked and violently reasserted everything back to the stock spec. It certainly couldn’t be a case of an editor meddling with his concepts since Barber IS the editor!
This issue didn’t even read like it was by the same guy who’d been writing the comic the whole time! It read like some other hack coming in and trying to ‘fix’ all the scary new and different changes Barber had brought in via the quickest, stupidest methods possible!