Comics are awesome.

[Dominic]

Not quite O6.

Silverstreak is a renaming of an existing character. It is more extreme than "The Batman" changing to simply "Batman". But, the idea is the same. The assumption is that they are the same character, not unlike Jazz/Meister or Octane/Tankor (Octankor as I have taken to calling him).

Chameleon is actually presented as a new character, separate and distinct from Baroness Anastasia DeCobray. Granted, Chameleon involves some serious retconning, and some really terrible implications about the state of things in the old comics. But, she is different character. (I think the original Chameleon figure had some red high-lights, making it a different paint job than the Baroness.)


Trekkie, the DDP crossovers were not all bad. The first one had atrocious art, (though good character models), but was a good "this is how it could have been" story. And, the third volume was also a pretty good take on that idea. Volumes 2 and 4 were garbage though.


Dom
-and lets not even get into Zartan....

[Shockwave]

Hey Shocky, I kinda liked the Devil's Due crossovers, too. Weren't they the ones with SerpentO.R. and Cobra-La and the like?

Yeah that's the one. I just read it recently.

[andersonh1]

I got the first two GI Joe vs. Transformers comics, despite not being a Joe fan. The second one (the retro WW2 storyline) had some very interesting art, but at the same time the story was written very poorly. The sequence of events was extrememly hard to follow. I still have no idea what half that story was about. At least it was pretty to look at.

[Shockwave]

That was Transformers/GI Joe from Dreamwave. Great concept, but I thought it was executed poorly. For one thing, the art was great, but they killed it by trying to make everything look like the old movie reels from the time. They should have just stuck with color.

As for the DDP ones, I liked the art and story throughout the whole thing (this is where I get stoned).

[138 Scourge]

-and lets not even get into Zartan....

Suits me, I'd rather get into Zarana.

As for the DDP ones, I liked the art and story throughout the whole thing (this is where I get stoned).

Maybe try reading 'em when you're not stoned, see if you like 'em as much?

I wasn't nuts about the first one, and pretty much dropped it after the first issue, but I'm a hundred percent behind the big art concept behind it, "Transformers turning into G.I. Joe vehicles!" I would love to see that translated into a sub-line one of these days. But, although I didn't see much of the others, the one with Serpent O.R. looked really cool, and Black Horizon sounds just god damn amazing. So there, ol' chap, you ain't the only one.

Didn't one of 'em have cyborg Dreadnoks on Junkions? Nothing to not like about that, I'll tell you.

[Dominic]

I knew we were in for it when the WWII cross-over's first issue kicked off with an introduction from the writer comparing the characters to retarded children. Just an introduction in a single issue comic is bad enough. But, that one.....

Reiber earned himself a spot on my "must read out of morbid curiosity" list. (But, I am still avoiding his unforgivably crass run on "Captain America".)

The problem with the art is that they did not seem to know what they wanted. Did they want color, hence the over-saturation, or did they want black and white? What really added insult to brutal injury was the fact that the character models for both sets of characters were very well designed. Jae Lee and Don Figueroa really did some amazing work, and it was utterly wasted.

"Black Horizon" is awful. Skip it.


Dom
-would like to see the DDP series continuted....which is unlikely.

[138 Scourge]

"Black Horizon" is awful. Skip it.

Well, being as it was published three years ago and I don't have it, I could argue that I already skipped it. But the fact that it's got Pretenders vs. Cobra-La makes me long for it.

[Dominic]

Trust me, skip it. It is *bad*.

Okay my break downs of the DDP cross-overs:

Volume 1: Competent writing that was there to set up a new combined reboot. In that sense, it did everything the previous cross-overs should have done. The art was terrible, with things like depth and scale being clearly off, even though I was trying not to notice.

Volume 2: Simplistic plot executed with zero style or grace. and ample contrivance and cliche. A friend of mine (rightly) compared a splash page in the first issue to the title screen of a video game. The art in this volume is even worse, with 20+ year old character models being drawn inconsistently.

Volume 3: Toys around with some "only works in this setting" ideas. Decent art, and set up for later stories. Worth picking up as a curiosity.

Volume 4: Combines both movies, but inconsistently mixes in characters from different era along with no small degree of obnoxious whimsy. It is a shame the series ended with this story.


Dom
-would like to see Costa try his hand at this.

[Dominic]

Speed Trap ("GI Joe" text preview):
The Cobra special I picked up last week included a short story from the upcoming "Takes From the Cobra War" anthology. The story focuses on an obscure character in a not quite defined, though clearly modern, context. Dialtone is female, meaning this is a post-25A timeline. But, that could be anything from the movie, to "Resolute", to modern IDW. The story itself is a basic "capture the flag" style romp. It is generally well paced, but the ending is a bit abrupt, reading more like the writer had run out of pages than anything else. There are a few attempts to be current. While they are not as crass or childish as Hama's WTC reference back in "The Mission that Never Was", they are still problematic. Over all, this story is not horrible, but does not inspire me to go out and look for the upcoming anthology, nor would I recommend anyone else bother. . Grade: C



Dom
-is looking to be rid of some Joe figures, but cannot muster the enthusiasm to sort through them.

[138 Scourge]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=28761

Okay, so this is just absolutely crazy. Zombies fight robots, zombies somehow infect robots, and then zombies and zombie robots (!!!) get loose in the Transformers, G.I. Joe, Ghostbusters, and Star Trek universes. Somehow, vampires are involved.

So on the one hand, this could be easy to ignore, but, maybe it's my horror and zombie movie loving heart, but the whole thing sounds bizarrely appealing. Why shouldn't we see Peter Venkman fight zombies? That makes sense, right? The G.I. Joe and Star Trek crossovers sound...odd, but it could be pretty neat seeing Snake Eyes vs. the undead. Doesn't make much sense, but could be cool. I have no idea what to think about the Star Trek one. And how did Doctor Who not get involved in this? That'd be an obvious one, I'd think. BBC not havin' it, I guess.

Now for the Transformers crossover. I'd almost think it'd be retarded, giant robots vs. killer zombies, but then I read that the creative team's Abnett and Lanning writing, with Nick Roche drawing, and I have to think "Well, crap, this creative team is awesome, sooooo...."

What'chall think?