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The 64DD happened. It came out in Japan and was released. There were a couple games for it--notably Doshin the Giant, the "Mario Artist" series which was like Mario Paint on steroids, and an expansion for F-Zero X--and many more that were cancelled--Banjo-Tooie (later released as a cartridge), Dragon Quest 7 (later released on the PSX), Mother 3 (later recreated on the Game Boy Advance), Pokemon Resident Evil 0 (later moved to the Gamecube) just to name a few--but the system did indeed come out in Japan. It just wasn't very successful (much like the N64) and thus they didn't release it in the US. Its lack of a major flagship game (the "second quest" to Zelda: Ocarina of Time, which "canonically" became OoT Master Quest*) was probably a deciding factor in not bringing it over. Thankfully, pretty much all the valuable stuff from it (Doshin the Giant, Master Quest, Mother 3) got moved somewhere else or reused.

*I say this because I am a firm believer that a good chunch of the "unused" extra dungeons that were cut from Ocarina of Time during development, and intended to be part of Master Quest/"Ura Zelda," became the dungeons in Majora's Mask. But this is only a fan theory and nobody has ever suggested this officially, so.

Onslaught Six wrote:Pokemon Resident Evil 0

Man, now I'm really sad we never got this system, I'd play the hell out of this one.

BWprowl wrote:

Onslaught Six wrote:Pokemon Resident Evil 0

Man, now I'm really sad we never got this system, I'd play the hell out of this one.

No shit. Now THAT'S a Pokemon game I could get behind.

Shit, my bad, didn't erase that. It's supposed to say "Pokemon, Resident Evil 0," since there was an untitled Pokemon title in development for the console. (Some say it became Pokemon Stadium.)

Onslaught Six wrote:*I say this because I am a firm believer that a good chunch of the "unused" extra dungeons that were cut from Ocarina of Time during development, and intended to be part of Master Quest/"Ura Zelda," became the dungeons in Majora's Mask. But this is only a fan theory and nobody has ever suggested this officially, so.

Ura Zelda and Zelda: Gaiden (which became Majora's Mask) was confirmed by Miyamoto to be two separate projects during their development.

My theory specifically refers to cut dungeons from OoT during development. You can't tell me that they didn't have something in mind for the Ice Arrows beyond...getting them in the desert. It's my theory that these ended up being the basis for Majora's Mask, with the "Ura Zelda" project being shuffled around into being something else, with rejiggered existing dungeons. There was 'tons' planned for this and initially OoT was just going to be a 64DD game to begin with, so it's not weird to imagine that a planned "Ice Dungeon" or other such things might've been cut from it, and then turned around into concepts for Majora's Mask.

Onslaught Six wrote:My theory specifically refers to cut dungeons from OoT during development. You can't tell me that they didn't have something in mind for the Ice Arrows beyond...getting them in the desert. It's my theory that these ended up being the basis for Majora's Mask, with the "Ura Zelda" project being shuffled around into being something else, with rejiggered existing dungeons. There was 'tons' planned for this and initially OoT was just going to be a 64DD game to begin with, so it's not weird to imagine that a planned "Ice Dungeon" or other such things might've been cut from it, and then turned around into concepts for Majora's Mask.

Yeah, I've seen plenty of fan theories about it but I'm just not convinced those dungeons ended up being the same concepts they used for Majora's Mask. As that link I posted says, both games were in development at the same time as separate games, one as an add on to OoT, the other as a new adventure. I think the idea Majora's Mask used those concepts just comes from some confusion as to whether or not Ura and Gaiden were two different games when they were initially announced.

Except the only source I have is looking at the games. I don't take any developer statements into account there. Fuck it.

By the way, 06, you finished Mass Effect 3 yet?
Which cupcake did you pick?

I did finish it!

Spoiler

I thought I was picking the "Kill the Reapers and all synthetics" ending but it turns out that's the red one--I assumed the blue (Paragon) option would be to do that selflessly, but it turns out that the blue one is "Control the Reapers but lose your humanity," bit. Of course, I'd have liked to pick the green one, "Merge synthetics and organics," because that seems like it's the coolest option and also reminds me of Beast Machines, but I didn't have that option in my game--I guess I didn't do everything right to earn it?

Incidentally, why does Shep see Anderson, Joker and Liara when s/he dies? Seems so...arbitrary. I wanted to think of Tali, damn it!