Terminator movies makes no sense & contradict each other.

[Onslaught Six]

So the thing about Terminator robo-wangs has me wondering something really dumb. So Terminator robots are shaped like skeletons, right? And the outer skin part is cloned human flesh? So like, do they have stomachs and digestive systems? I presume they're usually not active long enough to worry about maintaining their organic material, but if that's human-ish flesh, it'd need some kind of fuel if it was gonna go on for awhile, right?

Supposedly, if a Terminator is out in the wild for too long, it'll start to rot.

[Tigermegatron]

So the thing about Terminator robo-wangs has me wondering something really dumb. So Terminator robots are shaped like skeletons, right? And the outer skin part is cloned human flesh? So like, do they have stomachs and digestive systems? I presume they're usually not active long enough to worry about maintaining their organic material, but if that's human-ish flesh, it'd need some kind of fuel if it was gonna go on for awhile, right?

Supposedly, if a Terminator is out in the wild for too long, it'll start to rot.

Probably only the T-800's & lower,as the T-900's & T-X are made out of liquid metal & have no organic flesh over their robotic exo-skeletons.

[JediTricks]

Now whether the resistance used whores to ensure which people were real and which were replicants, I think we can assume that may have happened.

The dogs were more efficient, though.

One way or another, bitches be trippin'!

I can't remember if it was Terminator or Aliens that Cameron said he would "never" work on again because "the sequels ruined it."

I haven't heard that, but probably Aliens since Alien3 utterly ruined everything he achieved in Aliens. "Let's kill all the other characters that we worked so hard to save! YAY!"

Dumb idea: They should do a sequel to just the first Terminator, ignoring all the other ones, where a bunch of soldiers fight an army of them. TERMINATORS. (It's like Aliens, or Predators.)

I thought that's what McG was trying to do with TS.

So the thing about Terminator robo-wangs has me wondering something really dumb. So Terminator robots are shaped like skeletons, right? And the outer skin part is cloned human flesh? So like, do they have stomachs and digestive systems? I presume they're usually not active long enough to worry about maintaining their organic material, but if that's human-ish flesh, it'd need some kind of fuel if it was gonna go on for awhile, right?

Interesting point, the skin has blood in it, that blood has to be created from some material, and the skeleterminators don't have a lot of room for spare systems. Terminator cafeterias where they just sit around eating and saying pithy action quotes?

Probably only the T-800's & lower,as the T-900's & T-X are made out of liquid metal & have no organic flesh over their robotic exo-skeletons.

You mean T-1000, not T-900 which is not liquid metal but essentially a more streamlined version of the T-800 endoskeleton.

[Tigermegatron]

Probably only the T-800's & lower,as the T-900's & T-X are made out of liquid metal & have no organic flesh over their robotic exo-skeletons.

You mean T-1000, not T-900 which is not liquid metal but essentially a more streamlined version of the T-800 endoskeleton.

The newer T-1000 Terminator clearly was a liquid metal shape shifter. As he was able to liquify himself,slip thru cracks,get destroyed in liquid metal form,then combine his liquid metal droplets into a solid form. He either had some type of shape shifter technology or holographic visual technology that enabled him to look like other humans.

The newer Terminator in TF3 called the T-X,Appeared to be a fusion of regular robotic Exo-skeleton fused with shape shifting technology. T-X also had the abilty to modify her parts to form hand weapons & so forth.

Either way,I don't think the T-1000 nor the T-X could rot if left out in the wild/open. as both didn't have any human flesh put over their robotic exo-skeletons. both the T-1000 & T-X had robotic exo-skeletons & to disquise themselves as humans they used a combination of shape shiting technology coupled with holo-graphic visual technology.

[Onslaught Six]

I haven't heard that, but probably Aliens since Alien3 utterly ruined everything he achieved in Aliens. "Let's kill all the other characters that we worked so hard to save! YAY!"

The new video game actually completely retcons this. Hicks is still on the planet, that's someone else who died in Alien 3. Yeah.

[Dominic]

Perhaps, but aside from TM, nobody I've seen considers T3 and TS to be improvements on the franchise, they aren't building, they're only imitating and tearing down because they are the most recent sucker to try to outdo the previous film despite not having the right intentions and skills to do so. They certainly aren't making Skynet a more believable, credible, fleshed-out character from anything you've described.

T3 has its merits. It addresses some of the problems with the first two movies. (I am not saying that it was good.) T4 is so bad that it is awesome. If you like movies, you should see it as a counter-example. (Has Plunkett ever gone after T4? If not, shame on him.)

I am not arguing that SkyNet is an interesting or compelling character. I was arguing in terms of general principle that it made sense for SkyNet to not want to be shut down.

"Official" and "canon" are not the same thing. Pre-Crisis comics are part of the published canon, the stories that come after use what came before as canon by virtue of CoIE itself.

If we assume "canon" means "relevant", the whole point of CoIE was to strike a significant amount of earlier content. CoIE was a breaking point between the moden age of comics and the Silver/Bronze age. No Superman comics published before 1985 counted. Superman was backwritten out of everything before then. About 90% of Batman's history was over-written. That was more or less the pattern with most comics/characters. And, in cases where DC was less aggressive (such as with Power Girl or the Legion), there were problems because those characters and the books they were in still had to be significantly changed because of other things that DC was firm on.

The comics after Crisis generally avoided using what came before Crisis. That was kind of the point.

Either the higher power decides on what "right" is, or the society decides on what "right" is. Those tyranies you speak of are either enforced by violence, or supported by the belief that their higher power imbued their leaders with those rights.

And, does that make the assumed/agreed to standard inherently right?

The key word there was "spontaneous" sentience, sentience that wasn't intended when the software was created or fostered into creation.

Why are you so stuck on using spontaneous/natural as the only standard for moral worth? (Is it really because "everybody else says so"?)

Dumb idea: They should do a sequel to just the first Terminator, ignoring all the other ones, where a bunch of soldiers fight an army of them. TERMINATORS. (It's like Aliens, or Predators.)

I cannot say that I would bother to sit through what would effectively be another monster movie. That plot template is pretty stale.


Dom
-even the "clever" twist of AvP are not enough to save the movie as a whole....