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Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:49 pm
by Dominic
I am not sure if those were G2 guys that Alpha Trion was talking to or not.

This issue just felt like a kind of a cheat. We got a paint by numbers story at the end of an arc that was about changing the fundamentals. And, I do not expect this issue's future setting to be consistent with IDW even a year from now. Gorlam Prime could easily be wiped out by Roberts or Barber or Furman. There will be another completely unexpected rebitalization/return of/to Cybertron.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:41 pm
by Shockwave
Dominic wrote:I am not sure if those were G2 guys that Alpha Trion was talking to or not.
I think O6 is asking if this is the issue of the preview we saw with the guy that had the G2 sigil on his chest, not if the characters were based on actual G2 toys.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:58 pm
by 138 Scourge
Man, if Prime is going away for awhile, then the G2 Autobot symbol would be really cool, in-story. If Prime's still around the G2 Autobot symbol is still looks good, but seems a little silly. I can't see Prime getting behind the Autobots just having his face plastered on themselves. It seems like something he'd be kind of embarrassed about. "Look, guys, seriously, I appreciate the thought and all, but there's no need..."

Then again, G2 Prime had a picture of himself on his trailer, and his name written real big on his other trailer, right? G2 Prime might have been a bit of an egomaniac.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:09 am
by Tigermegatron
I read issue #31 a few hours ago,it was a weird issue.

They say both megatron & optimus prime are missing.

Last we saw Megatron in issue #30, he was being shot at by the Deceptigod,I assumed megatron died & got blown to micro pieces. to say megatron is missing makes no sense.

Last we saw optimus Prime,he was seen using the matrix to destroy the D-Void, I think optimus was seen last destroying,pushing back & following the D-void thru back to the dead universe. last we see optimus he's on a planet & is looking up at the stars. I assumed optimus was on gorlam prime or on the d-voids home planet or whatever. SO NO ONE CARED ABOUT OPTIMUS TO WONDER WHERE HE WENT & LOOKED FOR HIM FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS??

I didn't care for issue #30,it killed off 3 faction leaders who were galvatron,megatron & optimus Prime. galvatron appeared to be the most dead. megatron it looked like got shot by a huge blast by the deceptigod but readers didn't see megatron get blasted to bits. optimus I have no clue what happened to him. optimus uses the matrix,pushed the d-void back to where he came from,optimus followed the d-void & landed on a planet where the d-void was.

I don't expect issue #125 to answer any issue # 30 plot questions. as issue #31 didn't. even though optimus is MIA they say he's dead. maybe their referring to the fact transformers can't survive long on dead planet without energon to keep them alive.

IDW even went as far as to kill 2 combiners. one of the constructicons is dead. they formed devestator but the leg was dead. one or two of the combaticons are dead,so combining into bruticus seems impossible.

I could only imagine since the 2012 TF two comics series has the MTMTE/ARK decepticons in it. that issue #125 will show the deceptigod get seperated & the ark decepticons who merged to form deceptigod will be seen scattered on the floor. perhaps megatron will be MIA. Even though it looked liked the deceptigod in issue #30 threw a huge blast at megatron & i assumed megatron got blasted into micro bits.

folks this is bad writting,story pacing at it's worst. the whole chaos saga feels like it was written by amatuer/newbies.

Honestly we didn't need the 3 comics called "last story on earth" those 3 comics were a waste of space,paper & nothing happened.
all they had to do was ask spike what happened or shoot spike ful of holes & kill him. we didn't need 3 issues of cat & mouse with all that lame-o battle of the minds games.

I suspect issue #125 will prepare for the january two comics. by showing bumblebee,ultra magnus,prowl,streetwise,the other half of omega supreme,swindle,brawl,jazz & whoever else from the earth land on cybertron. i imagine the deceptigod will fall apart & release the singular decepticons.

I really miss simon furman & I think he's the only one that can write decent transformers stories. I can't wait for may 2012. those 20 issues of re-generation are gonna be awesome.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:42 am
by Gomess
Tigermegatron wrote:the whole chaos saga feels like it was written by amatuer/newbies.
Anything with "Chaos" in the title probably is.
Tigermegatron wrote:I really miss simon furman & I think he's the only one that can write decent transformers stories.
...Wowzers. That's a pretty strong indictment of every other TF author ever. You sure about that? Do you *only* enjoy Furman's stuff?

'Cos I gotta say, even as someone who's never exactly ranted and raved about the quality of any TF fiction, I was really happy when he released his monopoly and let some new guys have a go.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:54 am
by Dominic
Say what I will about Furman, he is a professional. He is a lazy hack, but he is a professional about it. He has not, as far as I know, blocked other writers. In fact, he put McDonough and Patyck over when they were at DW all those years ago.

But, no, he is not the only guy who can write TF. Abnett, at one point in the 80s, wrote some good TF comics. Budiansky had more than a few moments. For the life of me, I cannot recall who wrote "Man of Iron", (and shame on me for that).

Furman has also written a lot of crap, in TF and outside of it.
Last we saw Megatron in issue #30, he was ......

Last we saw optimus Prime,he was seen using the ......
Who the hell knows what happene during "Chaos". The art was so damned vague that it was impossible to tell what was going on beyind broad stokes of "shit just happened". "Chaos" was textbook bad.

It looked to be like everybody got killed at the end.

IDW even went as far as to kill 2 combiners. one of the constructicons is dead. they formed devestator but the leg was dead. one or two of the combaticons are dead,so combining into bruticus seems impossible.
None of the Combaticons are dead as far as I know. Either way, so what? They killed a Combiner or two off...and....? I am not sure why this is such a problem.
Honestly we didn't need the 3 comics called "last story on earth" those 3 comics were a waste of space,paper & nothing happened.
all they had to do was ask spike what happened or shoot spike ful of holes & kill him. we didn't need 3 issues of cat & mouse with all that lame-o battle of the minds games.
I am calling bullshit on this. "Last Story on Earth" was the last worthwhile thing to come out of this comic.

The idea is that Prowl wanted to be sure what Spike (who was in theory still an ally) had done and why. Prowl was apparently influenced by American ideas, as shown in the "Spotlight" issue (note the prominence of the Statue of Liberty in the story), and probably had some grasp of "innocent until proven guilty".

Prowl wanted to study Spike, and it was a good way to show readers that Spike was a kleptocratic thug. And, really, would you expect Spike to just come out and say, "yeah, I whacked 'im". Of course not. And, just asking him would have tipped him off about what was coming.


Dom
-Roberts and Barber better not screw this up.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:04 am
by Onslaught Six
Dominic wrote:But, no, he is not the only guy who can write TF. Abnett, at one point in the 80s, wrote some good TF comics. Budiansky had more than a few moments. For the life of me, I cannot recall who wrote "Man of Iron", (and shame on me for that).
Furman did. It was his first TF story ever.
None of the Combaticons are dead as far as I know. Either way, so what? They killed a Combiner or two off...and....? I am not sure why this is such a problem.
Deathy lurves them Combiners! (Did the Combaticons even form Bruticus?)

Deathy is the worst kind of TF comic fan, in my opinion.
-Roberts and Barber better not screw this up.
I have faith. I might actually buy the damn books for once.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:38 am
by Dominic
Actually, it was Steve Parkhouse who wrote "Man of Iron".

Deathy is the worst kind of TF comic fan, in my opinion.
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Dom
-but you skipped Costa's run.

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:47 am
by Onslaught Six
I...what the hell, that wasn't Furman?

I need to seriously re-evaluate what I think about UK TF now. Seriously!
Dominic wrote:
Deathy is the worst kind of TF comic fan, in my opinion.
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Dom
-but you skipped Costa's run.
Deathy wants everything to be the same and big ideas are weird etc. etc.

The art at the beginning of Costa's run still looks like ass and I can't be fucked bothering to actually read it with how far behind I am (what, two years?) so there's almost no point in doing so at this point. Everything wrapped up tightly and the new plots are certainly more interesting than the others so I'm pretty cool with having skipped it. (Frankly, Spike's character arc and political drama bores the hell out of me.)

Re: Transformers - ongoing series

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:52 pm
by andersonh1
Tigermegatron wrote:I read issue #31 a few hours ago,it was a weird issue.

They say both megatron & optimus prime are missing.

Last we saw Megatron in issue #30, he was being shot at by the Deceptigod,I assumed megatron died & got blown to micro pieces. to say megatron is missing makes no sense.
Why would you assume anything? We don't know what happened to Megatron yet.
Last we saw optimus Prime,he was seen using the matrix to destroy the D-Void, I think optimus was seen last destroying,pushing back & following the D-void thru back to the dead universe. last we see optimus he's on a planet & is looking up at the stars. I assumed optimus was on gorlam prime or on the d-voids home planet or whatever.
Again, on what grounds do you make either assumption about Optimus? There are no facts to back up either assumption. We don't know exactly what Prime did or where he is yet. The fourth chapter of Chaos ended like the other three so far, with plot resolution and answers yet to come.
I didn't care for issue #30,it killed off 3 faction leaders who were galvatron,megatron & optimus Prime.
No, it didn't.
I don't expect issue #125 to answer any issue # 30 plot questions. as issue #31 didn't.
I expect it to tie up all the loose ends, actually. Or most of them at least. What we got with issue 31 was a farewell issue from Mike Costa combined with a look back at the entire IDW Transformers history up to this point. I would have thought that it would be more appropriate to place such an issue after Chaos rather than before, but IDW didn't do that for whatever reason. It doesn't matter, it still serves its purpose.
IDW even went as far as to kill 2 combiners. one of the constructicons is dead. they formed devestator but the leg was dead. one or two of the combaticons are dead,so combining into bruticus seems impossible.
They didn't kill either combiner. Devastator has a bum leg, but he's still alive. And it stands to reason that if Bruticus even exists in IDW (I don't think he does at this point) that it would be just as easy to form him with a non-functional limb as it would be to form Devastator with one. In any case, I don't think any of the Combaticons are dead. Brawl's in stasis lock or something, but not dead.

I actually thought the whole "form the combiner with a dead limb" was an interesting new idea, and something I hadn't seen before.
folks this is bad writting,story pacing at it's worst. the whole chaos saga feels like it was written by amatuer/newbies.
I"m sorry, but you've misread the story on a number of levels and made assumptions not supported by the narrative. I think the fault is with you as a reader in this case.
I really miss simon furman & I think he's the only one that can write decent transformers stories. I can't wait for may 2012. those 20 issues of re-generation are gonna be awesome.
Well, I hope you enjoy them. I hope I will as well, and I"ll be reading the two ongoing books set in IDW's universe. Maybe one or both will appeal to you more. :)