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And my thing is...if you don't believe that to be an accurate view of Final Crisis, what 'is' an accurate view?

Ok, fine. As BWprowl had pointed out earlier, part of what Morrison was getting at was that authorial intent and editorial control were robbing character's of 'life'. So Final Crisis was (to take a quote from the book) "This last ditch attempt to save creation itself from a loathing and greed beyond measure!" I don't think he was saying that 'nothing means anything', so much as 'nothing would mean anything' if the creation processes behind the scenes of comics didn't allow the characters to grow and develop, since publishers seem to favor retconning characters these days.

Ah, now I see what you are saying.

Of course, this begs and buggers the question of irony. Morrison wrote the very retro "All Star Superman" *and* wrote the story that effectively undid CoIE.

Yes, the multiverse was re-established in "52", but Morrison is the guy who solidified it in "Final Crisis" and has been promising to map it (any day now, honest, for the last 2 years or so) with the upcoming (seriously, we mean it) "Multiversity". All of this is on top of the fact that he spent the last 2 years railing on and off about CoIE, one of the biggest changes to DC.

So, Morrison is a damned hypcrite, and DC published him being a hypocrite.

Dominic wrote:Of course, this begs and buggers the question of irony. Morrison wrote the very retro "All Star Superman" *and* wrote the story that effectively undid CoIE.

"All Star Superman" is a standalone series though, a totally separate story from the main DCU. And sure, he helped bring back the multiverse that CoIE destroyed, but the multiverse is a concept that allows them to explore other possibilities beyond the main DCU.

Sparky Prime wrote:Ok, fine. As BWprowl had pointed out earlier, part of what Morrison was getting at was that authorial intent and editorial control were robbing character's of 'life'. So Final Crisis was (to take a quote from the book) "This last ditch attempt to save creation itself from a loathing and greed beyond measure!" I don't think he was saying that 'nothing means anything', so much as 'nothing would mean anything' if the creation processes behind the scenes of comics didn't allow the characters to grow and develop, since publishers seem to favor retconning characters these days.

See, that’s actually mostly what I was saying. I think the thing is, Dom saw that Morrison was basically saying that comics moving forward should stop acting as vehicles for authors to express outside ideas and concepts with minimal mind paid to the ‘source material’ as it were, and become mostly focused on internal character-development and world building. IE: They would just be character-focused ‘stories’ and wouldn’t ‘mean’ anything. Which as we all know, is basically the opposite of what Dom looks for in storytelling, showing why he would lose interest in DC when one of their event books heralded a change in that direction.

Prowl is smart and good with words. I am dumb and use profanities.

Onslaught Six wrote:Prowl is smart and good with words. I am dumb and use profanities.

Probably why Prowl wound up in my sig now.

Onslaught Six wrote:Prowl is smart and good with words. I am dumb and use profanities.

I'll take that!

Saw this on a comics blog, and it's a fantastic reminder of why comics are awesome. Y'all should check this out, it's a page of Walt Simonson drawing Katie Power being fuckin' awesome.

http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -post.html

138 Scourge wrote:Saw this on a comics blog, and it's a fantastic reminder of why comics are awesome. Y'all should check this out, it's a page of Walt Simonson drawing Katie Power being fuckin' awesome.

http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -post.html

I don't know what amuses me more, the fact that Katie doesn't even get the chance to say no to performing this potentially-deadly energy-redirecting, or the way Thor just picks Katie up and squeezes the lasers out of her at the bad guy. Freaking classic.

So when are Jack and Julie going to get their turn at absorbing the power of Thor? Katie and Alex have already had their go (Alex-Thor is still one of the raddest things ever).