Re-Generation One (IDW retro G1)

The originals... ok, not exactly, but the original named "The TransFormers" anyway. Take THAT, Diaclone!
Generation 1, Generation 2 - Removable fists? Check. Unlicensed vehicle modes? Check. Kickass tape deck robot with transforming cassette minions? DOUBLE CHECK!!!
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andersonh1 wrote:The most interesting portion of it to me is the whole question of just what's going on with Hot Rod, and what his connection to Primus is. It is nice to finally have the question of what the creatures that attacked the Dinobots back in the last few issues of the old series are, and what they're doing on Cybertron, though I have a feeling there's a lot more to the story that could be told than we've been given so far.
BWprowl wrote:This story arc's been kind of a slog for me, just feels like it's blurrily going by without leaving as much of an impression on me. I read #88 last month realizing that I barely remembered the details of anything that had happened in #87, it's all dudes attacking the planet and Rodimus looking for...something (I completely forgot that he'd gone underground when I opened up #88). The most 'interesting' thing going on is the faction-switch ray, and that's hardly something that hasn't been done in TF before, though admittedly not on this grand a scale. Anyway, #89 was better, Perceptor repeating the oft-opined concepts about Transformers and conflict, though Furman pushes it a little further here, postulating that Transformers aren't just predicated towards conflict, they actually need it to survive! Makes a good situation for the Dinobots to take center-stage in, anyhow.

One thing I wasn't crazy about this issue was Furman recycling (once again) from his old 'Omega Point' story, including the Sword of Primus's design, and the idea of a preliminary group of 'prototype' Cybertronians that got scrapped. It's a little macabre in this interpretation, Primus just creating a race of guys, deciding that their conflict annoys him, and dropping them all into chasms, 'Mysterious Stranger'-style. I can definitely see why the remnants of that race would have it out for Rodimus, at any rate.
Okay I only read the frebie 80.5 Regeneration issue last year. I plan to buy all the trade paper back to regeration on-line when this comic wraps up

I DO HAVE A BURNING QUESTION TO ASK THOUGH. I thought this Re-generation was suspose to be a wrap up/tie up the lose ends things.
WHY IS SIMON INTRODUCING A WHOLE NEW ARMY OF NEWER FACTION CHARACTERS WITH THEIR UNIQUIE ORIGINS like the proto type transformers primus created a long time ago.

Why not just stick to the original plan by tying up the loose ends & wrapping up as many Marvel G-1 TF comic stories/characters/events as possible. OBVIOUSLY INTRODUCING NEWER CHARACTERS WITH THEIR ORIGINS TAKES STORY/TIME AWAY FROM WRAPPING UP/TYING UP ALL THE LOOSE ENDS FROM THE G-1 Marvel comic.

Their is literaly dozens of TF G-1 Marvel USA & UK Comics stories/plots/characters that need their loose ends tied up/wrapped up. theirs also so many older stories/plots/characters they could revisit INSTEAD OF CREATING NEWER CHARACTERS WITH NEWER ORIGINS,NEWER PLOTS,NEWER CONFLICTS,ETC...

I just feel SIMON or IDW has a ulterior motive with this Re-generation one comic. maybe simon & all those involved speculate this could possibly replace the MMTMTE & RID G-1 Comics for IDW,Similar to the IDW G.I Joe comics that are in the marvel 1980's universe & continue where those marvel stories left off. Maybe since IDW has re-booted the TF G-1 comics so many times,it's possible they think another re-boot is upon them & regeneration will become the new reboot for the main TF G-1 yearly comics.
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He's not really creating new characters, it's more like reconcilling part of the G2 comic into this one since Re-G1 is essentially overwriting that. The original Transformers Primus origin was originally seen in the G2 comic and I suspect this is part of wrapping up Hot Rod/Rodimus' storyline more than anything. He definitely is not exploring the separate origins of a whole army of subteranean Cybertronian monsters.
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Tigermegatron wrote:Okay I only read the frebie 80.5 Regeneration issue last year. I plan to buy all the trade paper back to regeration on-line when this comic wraps up

I DO HAVE A BURNING QUESTION TO ASK THOUGH. I thought this Re-generation was suspose to be a wrap up/tie up the lose ends things.
WHY IS SIMON INTRODUCING A WHOLE NEW ARMY OF NEWER FACTION CHARACTERS WITH THEIR UNIQUIE ORIGINS like the proto type transformers primus created a long time ago.
They were introduced in the old Marvel series, we just never found out what they were. Grimlock fought them right after becoming an Action Master. So this is an old plotline picked back up.
Why not just stick to the original plan by tying up the loose ends & wrapping up as many Marvel G-1 TF comic stories/characters/events as possible.
He's largely doing this. Megatron's story has been ended as far as Marvel continuity goes, and so has Ratchet's. We're following up on Galvatron and Shockwave, and some of the after-effects of Nucleon use. Bludgeon and his activities are being explored, as well as something to do with Thunderwing. About the only character whose story was tied up nicely who has been brought back is Scorponok. There's not a lot of new stuff here. Even Hot Rod's exploration under Cybertron goes back to the beginning of Furman's run on Marvel G1.
I just feel SIMON or IDW has a ulterior motive with this Re-generation one comic. maybe simon & all those involved speculate this could possibly replace the MMTMTE & RID G-1 Comics for IDW,Similar to the IDW G.I Joe comics that are in the marvel 1980's universe & continue where those marvel stories left off. Maybe since IDW has re-booted the TF G-1 comics so many times,it's possible they think another re-boot is upon them & regeneration will become the new reboot for the main TF G-1 yearly comics.
I see no evidence of this at all.
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Furman's pacing is fine. Stuff generally happens every issue. The problem is that for a good chunk of the previous decade, Furman did not seem to have anything to say or anywhere to go that did not involve Unicron.
The most interesting portion of it to me is the whole question of just what's going on with Hot Rod, and what his connection to Primus is. It is nice to finally have the question of what the creatures that attacked the Dinobots back in the last few issues of the old series are, and what they're doing on Cybertron, though I have a feeling there's a lot more to the story that could be told than we've been given so far.
In the original series, Prime's need to make a decision about Ratchet/Megatron and Grimlock's decison to use Nucleon were pretty clearly related. Primus' failed early attempt at creating a new species my tie in to that thematically.

He's largely doing this. Megatron's story has been ended as far as Marvel continuity goes, and so has Ratchet's. We're following up on Galvatron and Shockwave, and some of the after-effects of Nucleon use. Bludgeon and his activities are being explored, as well as something to do with Thunderwing. About the only character whose story was tied up nicely who has been brought back is Scorponok. There's not a lot of new stuff here. Even Hot Rod's exploration under Cybertron goes back to the beginning of Furman's run on Marvel G1.
And, the UK books are being partially ignored. Furman has just under a year to wrap this up. I am betting that he can do it.



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-will be annoyed if "ReGeneration One" just continues on after issue 100 though...
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Dominic wrote:Furman's pacing is fine. Stuff generally happens every issue. The problem is that for a good chunk of the previous decade, Furman did not seem to have anything to say or anywhere to go that did not involve Unicron.
To be fair, Hasbro put Unicron in Armada/Energon/Cybertron, so anyone writing fiction for those lines was pretty much forced to include him. Furman didn't include Unicron at all in his IDW work, so credit where credit's due for not going back to that well yet again.
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Are you forgetting that honkin' big Unicron toy that Armada had? Pretty sure that wasn't Furman's idea.
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True, but with all the big build up stories that plagued the convention comics in the late 90's/early 00's, I'm beginning to think that the real terror imposed by Unicron isn't in Unicron himself, but the absolute boredom ensued by waiting for him to show up.
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He only showed up in Omega Point. It wasn't until he showed up in Armada that Hasbro went nuts for Unicron and started pimping him out in everything.
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Really? Cause I had a bunch of Timelines/Wreckers Botcon comics that implied Unicron pretty heavily. But, again, they were all limited runs and Furman was still in his "Massive buildup" phase.
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Nah, the Wreckers comics didn't have anything to do with Unicron, because he had already been killed (again) by Omega Point. Timelines is all FunPub, which Furman hasn't written a page of.
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