TF Views

Onslaught Six wrote:It's 2011. That's seven years.

Yes.

I don't consider 7 years as old personally but whatever.

In terms of fiction, especially TF fiction, then yes, it is. Since 2004 there's been two series, Classics, a film, Animated, another film, and now Prime. The landscape is entirely different now. Also, back then the Botcon comics were a lot more shy about obscure stuff. (Seriously, in 2004 could you ever see getting new stories featuring Pyro and Clench, let alone toys?)

The Universe/Wreckers story itself isn't that old though, being only 7 years ago, despite all the fiction and "landscape" that's come after it. And the collectors club comic continued to use some ideas spun out of that story with various Transformers displaced from their home universes.

In terms of comic book fiction 7 years is an eternity. It's like dog years. Not much to us, but in the events of that universe...

Anyway, what the hell, I'll play: Strongest bots and most destruction would have to go to... IDW. Seriously, the Decepticons have not only managed to make a significant mess of Earth (possibly twice now) but they've made a mess of enough other planets that it's actually evolved into a 6 phase process! I mean they ruined Cybertron, A good portion of Earth, Garrus-9, that other planet that the Reavers finished off, Gorlam Prime, Nebulos wasn't totally destroyed, but there was some destruction there too so, yeah, they're causing havoc on a galactic scale here.

Shockwave wrote:In terms of comic book fiction 7 years is an eternity. It's like dog years. Not much to us, but in the events of that universe...

For regular comic books perhaps, but then these are the convention comics we're talking about. Those stories don't progress quite as quickly.

If we use DC as the base, assume ~8 years passing in context relative to the 25+ years that have passed for use since 1985. Marvel seems to assume a bit more that 15 years in context since 1963. Both of this assumes a 3:1 ratio of real;comic years.

(Now, consiser how messy that makes life in both MArvel and DC.)

In terms of marketing, 7 years is a life time, making the old BotCon comics "old".


The Decepticons did not really ruin Garrus 9 though. Overlord, acting largely on his own, wrecked on installation on a planet that did not seem to have much else on it. Gorlam Prime was destroyed once by Cybertronians and again by the Dead Universe's influence. Whatever damage was done on Neblous was done by Thunderwing on meth. The Reavers had maybe 1 Cybertronian.


Dom
-would still feel safer in IDW's TF universe than in either Marvel or DC.

Dominic wrote:If we use DC as the base, assume ~8 years passing in context relative to the 25+ years that have passed for use since 1985. Marvel seems to assume a bit more that 15 years in context since 1963. Both of this assumes a 3:1 ratio of real;comic years.

(Now, consiser how messy that makes life in both MArvel and DC.)

In terms of marketing, 7 years is a life time, making the old BotCon comics "old".

But again, these are convention comics we're talking about here. They don't necessarily follow the marketing circuit and the passage of time for their stories is much more nondescript.

Sparky Prime wrote:

Dominic wrote:If we use DC as the base, assume ~8 years passing in context relative to the 25+ years that have passed for use since 1985. Marvel seems to assume a bit more that 15 years in context since 1963. Both of this assumes a 3:1 ratio of real;comic years.

(Now, consiser how messy that makes life in both MArvel and DC.)

In terms of marketing, 7 years is a life time, making the old BotCon comics "old".

But again, these are convention comics we're talking about here. They don't necessarily follow the marketing circuit and the passage of time for their stories is much more nondescript.

My bad, I didn't get that we were limiting this to just the con comics. In that case, I wouldn't really say that it matters then because I tend to take each one as a separate and unrelated story to the previous one (despite them being set in the same universe). In that case, I would say yeah, 7 years is a long time. Because now it's like "Hey remember that time seven years ago..."

What about G2? Jhaxus and his goons commited at least 17 planet-wide genocides.

Ursus mellifera wrote:What about G2? Jhaxus and his goons commited at least 17 planet-wide genocides.

I considered that too, I just get the impression that the current IDW Decepticons have done more than that, they referrence a galaxy wide conquest and I would have to assume that's more than 17 planets. Maybe not, could be wrong, but the G2 'Cons are good for at least a tie.