Cyclonus problem (thanks Takara!)

[BWprowl]

]Screw it. I am now adhering to IDW's theory. Cyclonus is his own dude.

The more and more I read of IDW, the more I like even the whole Galvatron-isn't-Megatron thing. (Or maybe he is, just from the vast future. Who knows, it doesn't matter!)

I have no problem with Galvatron being not-Megatron, but I do have problems with him being a terrible. boring character. He was marginally more interesting in the one issue of Infestation that I read, but that was Infestation, so fuck it.

IDW Cyclonus's portrayal was a bit better, if kinda annoying in the whole "I'm crazy, but I pretend to not be crazy! Which just drives me crazier!" thing. I think it's mainly that I was so fond of the future Decepticons in the Marvel (particularly UK) comics, that I didn't think those characters *needed* reinvention. Couldn't Furman have used some *other* guys as crazy original Dead-Universe-consumed Autobots? Surely there's more fitting characters that could use some face time.

[138 Scourge]

Screw it. I am now adhering to IDW's theory. Cyclonus is his own dude.

Yeah, well, he always may have well have been his own dude. It's not like Cyclonus has ever shown (outside of the Wreckers comics, I guess, but seriously) any indication of a past life, or any character traits associated with Bombshell or Skywarp. Come to that, Scourge never really acted much like Thundercracker, either.

Man, IDW really doesn't care for anyone turning into anyone else, do they? I'm really kind of shocked that Goldbug is his own dude in their comics. At this point, I almost expect Life Spark to show up somewhere.

[Dominic]

In the "Battle in Space" comic, Cyclonus mentions having a past life. But, his musing complaints are cut off by Hotrod.

I have no idea what the thinking at IDW is as far as characters not being rebuilt as other characters. It might be a back-lash against the fannish trend, (which became common during the UT), towards having recolors be the same character, or even having multiple moulded iterations of the same character. But, I really have no idea what is happening with that.

We knew they were mistakes.

I also knew those were mistakes. But, the fact that the mistakes were made just blew my mind. (How could a lowest bidder animation studio be so sloppy? How?!?!?!?) And, after recognizing that a mistake was made, in some cases, we then have to figure out which example was the mistake and which is the correct answer. (Which origin of the Constructicons is correct?) Then, I have to accept that both could be mistakes, and that there is no viable answer beyond "null", which is like a zen riddle from hell for a strict constructionist like me.


Dom
-and if we go from the original Marvel comic, there were dozens each of Cyclonus and Scourge.....

[Shockwave]

There were at least two Galvatrons in G1 Marvel. Unicron took him from other "continuities" a couple of times. Given how that worked out, you'd have to wonder why he kept doing it. So i would have no touble believing multiple copies of the same character.

[Dominic]

Well, if we are going down this dark path...

Millions of years ago, Cyclonus joined an exploratory mission that was doomed to be lost in the Dead Universe. Unicron saw these brave explorers, and recognized a need for followers. He used his immense power and might to scan the mission's mightiest warriors.

He then used those warriors as the templates for his soldiers and heralds in other continuums.


Dom
-maybe this should have gone in the "stupid ideas" thread.

[Shockwave]

Y'know, that would have some interesting connotations for G1 Megs.

[Dominic]

Please elaborate.

[Shockwave]

Well I guess it would have more implications for Galvatron. But, if DU Galvy is the one true original Galvatron and Unicron is using the body style as a template, then you've got Galvatron who has one personality and then you get Megatron reformatted into Galvatron body style. Unicron could have also reformatted part of Galvy's personality into Megs as well and that would mean that G1 Galvatron is not actually true Galvatron, but some sort of combination of both. So the Galvatron that we see in the 86 movie isn't really "Galvatron" but some combined psyche of equal parts Megatron and Galvatron. Probably similar to the later Straxus story in the comic book. And the same could be said of the other reformats as well.

[Dominic]

Ah, but aside from the US/UK comics' adaptation of the movie, the other guys were dead when Unicron rebuilt them.


Dom
-can see where you are going with this though.