Voyager Megatron

[Onslaught Six]

He's not as bulked out as Ratchet or Ironhide from the first Movie line, but he has more moving parts.

If it's a cost issue, then go on and don't get him, but if you have the money to spare, I'd say pick him up. I mostly just got him on impulse, and because 86 kept saying, "I horribly horribly want Mixmaster but he isn't out yet." So I found and bought him.

[JediTricks]

He's not as bulked out as Ratchet or Ironhide from the first Movie line, but he has more moving parts.

If it's a cost issue, then go on and don't get him, but if you have the money to spare, I'd say pick him up. I mostly just got him on impulse, and because 86 kept saying, "I horribly horribly want Mixmaster but he isn't out yet." So I found and bought him.

It's partly a cost issue, but also partly I just find the vehicle tiny and the robot a well-articulated stick figure with kibble.

[Onslaught Six]

Oh well. See if anyone you know has him, give him a fiddle, see what you think. Friends are good for that.

[onslaught86]

I fiddled with Mixmaster and found him annoyingly overcomplex, but don't yet own him, trying to space the line out a bit so I don't buy everything I want at once and bitch about there being nothing new for ages.

He is indeed tiny in alt. mode, but they speak the truth, the robot is significantly larger and it's not just kibble.

That's a cop-out, his arm just folds around, his legs rotate around and up, the only thing that pegs together is 2 small points on the shell piece's wings... hell, if it wasn't for the rotating-around left shoulder and the flop-out lower legs, you could do his transformation with a GI Joe figure.

Heh, which of the ROTF Megses are you referring to? Neither have spectacular transformations, though I'd call the Voyager's much more effective and interesting. There're enough moving parts there to keep me interested, even if it is simplistic compared to others in the line. The end result is also a legit alt. mode, not just a robot pretending to be a tank. Sure, most of the dedicated tank parts are wing kibble, but it looks good, and i hardly expect them to pull off the ridiculous crumpled tinfoil look of the actual design.

Hell, I WISH the movie model had that spikey wing kibble. I love being able to drape it over the robot like a demonic cape, or fold it back to let him get up close and personal with the claw-arm.

The statement that it's "never going to be all that" makes it sound like he falls into some gray area between the spectrum of "all that" and "super lazy repositioning limb crap," when in fact he falls squarely into the latter. Being a cybertronian mode shouldn't be an excuse to be a lazy alt mode and shabby transformation - although come to think of it, you wouldn't know it looking at the last 2 years of Hasbro's Megatrons!

I honestly suspect Hasbro are subsidising the inevitably unbalanced cost of their elaborate Prime figures by making the Megatrons hunks of utter shit.

I'm still waiting for ANYBODY to review this figure, seems like nobody wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Dunno whether I'll even bother. Got Super Megs for 40% off and kinda regret it. The robot looks okay standing there, but he's made entirely of that awful Hasbro Grey that eats details. He's more or less the same deal as the previous Movie Megatron, only the robot mode's more boring and bricky, his articulation is truly awful and I hate the shrivelled gimp arm and the emo facepaint. The last one had a probably better alt. mode, and definitely better gimmicks.

After buying him, my thoughts were this:

"Megatron is crappy, I'm glad he was a 40% off purchase. Big and clunky and grey and not much else, poor articulation, poor transformation and gimmick, underdetailed, silly mech alive, suffers from being designed before the movie design was complete. Avoid, unless you really like big bricky grey Megatrons. About the same as the last one."

I don't know whether he's really THAT awful, since that was kneejerk gut reaction. He's certainly incredibly simplistic compared to everything else in the price bracket, though.

Mega Megs is a vastly better toy.

[JediTricks]

I fiddled with Mixmaster and found him annoyingly overcomplex, but don't yet own him, trying to space the line out a bit so I don't buy everything I want at once and bitch about there being nothing new for ages.

Oh well. See if anyone you know has him, give him a fiddle, see what you think. Friends are good for that.

Apparently not for you.

He is indeed tiny in alt. mode, but they speak the truth, the robot is significantly larger and it's not just kibble.

My concern wasn't kibble exactly, more like "he's a stick figure!"

Heh, which of the ROTF Megses are you referring to?

Ouch, just saved me $45.

Neither have spectacular transformations, though I'd call the Voyager's much more effective and interesting.

Double ouch!

There're enough moving parts there to keep me interested, even if it is simplistic compared to others in the line.

1 shell, 2 fold down lower legs. That's 3 significant moving parts for transformation, the rest is just positioning limbs.

The end result is also a legit alt. mode, not just a robot pretending to be a tank.

No, it's a robot HIDING UNDER A SHELL THAT'S PRETENDING TO BE A TANK! Hell, it's not even a multi-piece shell a la shellmasterism, it's 1 big shell that's hinged.

I honestly suspect Hasbro are subsidising the inevitably unbalanced cost of their elaborate Prime figures by making the Megatrons hunks of utter shit.

Seems unlikely since Megatrons never sell as well as OPs that they'd consciously sacrifice Megs to make that money back.

Dunno whether I'll even bother. Got Super Megs for 40% off and kinda regret it. The robot looks okay standing there, but he's made entirely of that awful Hasbro Grey that eats details. He's more or less the same deal as the previous Movie Megatron, only the robot mode's more boring and bricky, his articulation is truly awful and I hate the shrivelled gimp arm and the emo facepaint. The last one had a probably better alt. mode, and definitely better gimmicks.

After buying him, my thoughts were this:

"Megatron is crappy, I'm glad he was a 40% off purchase. Big and clunky and grey and not much else, poor articulation, poor transformation and gimmick, underdetailed, silly mech alive, suffers from being designed before the movie design was complete. Avoid, unless you really like big bricky grey Megatrons. About the same as the last one."

I don't know whether he's really THAT awful, since that was kneejerk gut reaction. He's certainly incredibly simplistic compared to everything else in the price bracket, though.

Mega Megs is a vastly better toy.

[/quote]Quintuple ouch!