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Hate the idea, fine, but damn dude didja have to be so hostile about it? I don't really object to you asking me to submit proof of my statement (I certainly would have) but ya coulda been nicer about it. I mean, just because someone can't remember where they heard something doesn't mean it didn't happen. You mean to tell me that you never saw something and then couldn't remember where you'd seen it? Just because you can't remember where doesn't erase the fact that you saw it. /rant.
Prowl is known for being sarcastic about stuff like this. Do not let it get to you.

I trust you enough to believe you saw it. But, a source would be nice, if only to assess the source. (I have seen unofficial sources trying to sound official, and getting stuff wrong.)

And I would further cite the series' consistent continuity/animation errors as a grounds to back it up. So far, the only official RM is Acid Storm. Unless Hasbro comes out with something to confirm the rest, they're nothing more than fan speculation, so believe what you want as your belief that he's not the third RM is just as valid as my opinion that he is.
A mistake is hardly justification on this sort of thing. Hasbro is the only one with a right to arbitrate on this, and I would not expect them to bother.

Citing mistakes in a show that was as sloppily made as the old cartoon is just asking for trouble. One could argue any number of things, and most of it would be wrong by virtue of going against official intent. There are grounds to argue that pretty much every guy who died in the movie survived. But, we all know that such an arguement would be little more than fans trying to justify their own whims.





I'll give you that they could've made Silverbolt more integral to the combined form, besides forming the helmet and chest gun. But Magnaboss still wins for having proportionate body parts, and an interesting combination scheme that we haven't seen anything like since (The scheme also works really well, thematically, in the case of the BWII characters).
Post hoc characterization for a toy does not justify bad design. Magna Boss is good compared to other TF merge groups, but the bar is *very* low.

I'll agree with you on this one, but Devastator is still light-years ahead of the Scramble City guys in terms of how much thought went into his combination scheme. And his resulting robot mode has better proportions AND more articulation to boot.

Speaking of setting the bar low...

Devastator had arm (should and elbow) articulation, and a wee bit in his neck. Most of the "Scramble City" type guys had more shoulder articulation, and some had leg articulation as well. And, all of them were more solid than Devastator. Even giving Devastator maximum points for the elbows and proportion, he still loses points for being fragile, and looking horrible from any angle but straight ahead.

Dom, did you forget about Liokaiser? Only piece of combiner kibble that guy had was the head.
Good catch. But, the toy was never released in the US. And, Puzzlor is still better.


Incidently, we're of opposing opinions on this. You hate the idea of the yellow rainmaker being Sunstorm and I really hate the idea that he's not as that means we've gotten as much toy attention to a blink-and-you'll-miss-him character as we have for an uber bad ass main character like Shockwave. At least if he was the third rainmaker he'd have had at least two episodes with screentime which would *sort of* justify the attention.


"Animated" Sunstorm warrants about as much attention as purple "Animated" Shockwave. Linking them to G1 is dicey, as they are essentially different characters from different contexts sharing names. (Sunstorm and Shockwave are not even idiomatically similar the way Megatron or Starscream would be.)


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Sorry Trek. O6 syndrome, in that I didn't mean to come off as hostile, but did anyway. I was just trying to be succinct in my assertion, and came off as a short 4chan jackass instead. My bad, dude!

Anyway, I went and checked TFwiki (are you aware of that site? It's utterly fantastic) and they only identify Acid Storm as a member of the Rainmakers. On Sunstorm's page they mention that a yellow Seeker appears in 'Divide and Conquer', but concede that it's probably not Sunstorm.
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Dominic wrote:A mistake is hardly justification on this sort of thing. Hasbro is the only one with a right to arbitrate on this, and I would not expect them to bother.

Citing mistakes in a show that was as sloppily made as the old cartoon is just asking for trouble. One could argue any number of things, and most of it would be wrong by virtue of going against official intent. There are grounds to argue that pretty much every guy who died in the movie survived. But, we all know that such an arguement would be little more than fans trying to justify their own whims.
This was the point I was trying to make, although you phrased it much more eloquently.
BWprowl wrote:Sorry Trek. O6 syndrome, in that I didn't mean to come off as hostile, but did anyway. I was just trying to be succinct in my assertion, and came off as a short 4chan jackass instead. My bad, dude!

Anyway, I went and checked TFwiki (are you aware of that site? It's utterly fantastic) and they only identify Acid Storm as a member of the Rainmakers. On Sunstorm's page they mention that a yellow Seeker appears in 'Divide and Conquer', but concede that it's probably not Sunstorm.
It's all good, :D I just hope I didn't come back as equally hostile as that wasn't my goal either :oops: See, this is why I've missed you guys, we all have differing opinions and yet are still very respectful and jovial with each other. It's awesome.

Isn't that just the TF part of wikipedia? Or is that a completely separately run site? As for Sunny, until Hasbro actually puts their foot down one way or the other, we're all pretty much left to our own devices to figure it out.
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http://www.tfwiki.net. Great site. I haven't been to the Wikipedia TF section, but I'm willing to bet this is more in-depth and far-reaching, considering the whole thing is just dedicated to TF. It's one of my main time-kill sites.
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4chan jackass

It truly frightens me how much cross-over those guys have with the Transfandom.

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Done. Google results for "4chan jackass" were not really as interesting as one would think. The first listing was something about Ben Stein being a jackass and the second one linked to some weird anime forum with people viciously flaming each other over god knows what.
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Shockwave wrote:Done. Google results for "4chan jackass" were not really as interesting as one would think. The first listing was something about Ben Stein being a jackass and the second one linked to some weird anime forum with people viciously flaming each other over god knows what.
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The best thing I found was a video that had these tags: FISH ABUSE! fish abuse rape 4chan jackass party boy lol.

So I don't know what was going on there.

While Prowl's certainly got a point about the Scramble City guys all having the same thing going on, I kinda think that great things can be done with the formula. I mean, you take, say, Superion, who most undoubtedly sucks, and then you take, say, Predaking. Still got the same kind of transformation happening there, but the result's considerably more impressive.

Also, Prowl, I wouldn't be so quick to knock the "interchangablity" part of the Scramble City guy's appeal. Armed with the right versions of some of these toys, I think the results can be impressive. Image
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Yeah, Predaking had great posability. Remember that DW poster with him fighting Superion and Defensor? He was the only one of those merge groups whose toy could take the same pose as in the litho. Scourge's pic FTW!!

And Prowl... dude you just found my sig. Awesome.
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Has anyone else seen the "Scramble City" episode released with the movie DVD back in '06? My god.....horrid.

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