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Re: Star Trek
Re: Starfleet Academy - it doesn't look like a show where anything interests me, other than Robert Picardo being in it. I'm assuming he's playing the holographic Doctor, because of course that character could easily survive into the far future. Maybe I can find some clips of his scenes once the show starts.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what they're going for with this Starfleet Academy series based on this trailer. The way they present the students makes it feel more like Starfleet's school for misfit special kids. Star Trek isn't the X-Men. I love seeing Robert Picardo in it, but... Nothing else really grabbed me about this trailer.
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The Kelvin timeline is dead. After numerous directors and writers have been attached to and gone over the past decade, Skydance/Paramount CEO David Ellison says they've "moved on" from the idea of doing a 4th film with the JJ Abrams Star Trek cast.
Frankly, I think it's for the best to leave the JJ Abrams films behind. Sure it helped relaunch the franchise, but they were not well written movies.
Frankly, I think it's for the best to leave the JJ Abrams films behind. Sure it helped relaunch the franchise, but they were not well written movies.
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I agree, and I think it's better to just end it than keep floating the idea of a sequel that isn't going to happen.Sparky Prime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:00 pm The Kelvin timeline is dead. After numerous directors and writers have been attached to and gone over the past decade, Skydance/Paramount CEO David Ellison says they've "moved on" from the idea of doing a 4th film with the JJ Abrams Star Trek cast.
Frankly, I think it's for the best to leave the JJ Abrams films behind. Sure it helped relaunch the franchise, but they were not well written movies.
I'm not a big fan of recasting... to me Shatner is Kirk, and Nimoy is Spock, etc. That being said, they did cast some good actors who could certainly have done a good job of recreating the characters if they'd been given better material to work with. I enjoyed the movies for what they were, despite some major gripes, but they really should have been a lot better than they were.
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Thomas Jane and Kai Murakami have been reportedly cast to play Dr. McCoy and Sulu in the series finale of Strange New Worlds.
Which means all of Kirk's senior staff, save for Chekov, will be represented in the series. I've been expecting this. It has been pretty clear the creators of SNW have been building towards Kirk's era as the Enterprise captain. Which, to me, is a mistake. This show should have focused on Pike and his crew of the Enterprise, and any references to TOS crew (save for Spock as the only established member of both crews) should have been used sparingly. Honestly, I'm a little surprised they're apparently not going to shoehorn Chekov in somehow, or just ignore his age like the 2009 film did.
Which means all of Kirk's senior staff, save for Chekov, will be represented in the series. I've been expecting this. It has been pretty clear the creators of SNW have been building towards Kirk's era as the Enterprise captain. Which, to me, is a mistake. This show should have focused on Pike and his crew of the Enterprise, and any references to TOS crew (save for Spock as the only established member of both crews) should have been used sparingly. Honestly, I'm a little surprised they're apparently not going to shoehorn Chekov in somehow, or just ignore his age like the 2009 film did.
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The newest Star Trek series is here. Nice new ship flyby intro for the 60th anniversary showcases the Enterprise, Enterprise A, Enterprise D, Defiant, Voyager, NX-01, Discovery, SNW Enterprise and finally the Athena.
Starfleet Academy
"Kids These Days"
I'm confused about what happened with Caleb's mother. She's sentenced to a rehabilitation center, where she'd have visitation rights. So... why does Caleb spend the next 15 years looking for her? Shouldn't it be relatively easy for him to find which facility they put her in? Later on in the episode, Nus Braka says they broke out of prison together. But Ake said Anisha wouldn't be sent to prison. Which is it? Also, find it hard to believe a 6 year old, even if he's a genius with access to 32nd century technology, could survive 15 years on his own.
I'm liking the characters for the most part. Great to see the EMH. He added aging to his program 500 years ago, explaining Robert Picardo's real life aging, but is explained in-universe that he wanted to put the organics at ease. He apparently never chose a name. Still don't understand how there is a Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid, when the Jem'Hadar were created in a lab by the Founders and as far as we know aren't capable of reproducing. All she says is that she's from a Klingon house, and a Jem'Hadar lineage. But she is a fun character. Nahla Ake is not what you'd expect for a Starfleet captain, but I really like Holly Hunter's portrayal.
For the main cadets of the series, we have Genesis Lythe, a Dar-Sha (a new alien species to us), Darem Reymi, a Khionian (another new alien species to us) who can look human, Sam, a hologram from a holographic society, and Jay-Den Kraag, a Klingon that wants to be a doctor. I really like the inclusion of a Klingon that doesn't want to be a warrior. But, it sounds like they dubbed over his voice and modulated it lower.
For some reason, cadets are not allowed to check out an EVA suit with out an instructor, but they can still get a pair of magnetic boots and just walk out of an air lock. Obviously, this was just an excuse to show off Darem's abilities as a Khionian, but it was a little convoluted.
I don't understand why they just let Nus Braka escape. With his ship destroyed and their systems back online, they could have beamed him to the brig, or at least put a tractor beam on his escape pod.
When the Athena arrives at Earth, they drop off the warp nacelles with an orbital space dock. Cool visual, but I would have thought programmable matter and whatever would have allowed them to just melt the nacelles into the saucer, like how Book's ship could reconfigure itself. Also not sure why the cadets had to gather... You know, I have no idea what planet the Athena departed from. Anyway, I don't see any reason why they couldn't have just gathered at Earth directly, or why the main building is a starship.
"Beta Test"
This episode messed up the Betazoids. They're described as being empathic, and at no point mentions they are supposed to be telepathic. Granted, Deanna Troi was empathic, as a result of her being half human. But she could still telepathically talk to her mother, and Riker, and some other telepathic aliens. There's no explanation why these characters aren't telepathic.
Tarima is somewhat like Tam Elbrun from the episode "Tin Man". Her powers apparently are so powerful that, without the inhibiter she wears, she's a danger to those around her. Not sure how, since Tam's abilities only caused problems for himself.
I liked President Sadal is a deaf character, played by a deaf actor. Reminded me a little of Riva from "Loud as a Whisper". And it was neat that he had a device on his collar that could speak for him. But... again, being a Betazoid, he should have been able to talk to others telepathically.
Not sure why they hold the negotiations in public. I get the whole, the kids are our future angle they're going for in this episode, but the actual talks should have been in private.
Cool to see a Brikar. Unfortunately, it looks like they just pulled the CGI model directly from Star Trek Prodigy. It looked like a cartoon character rather than adapted to live action. We also see an Exocomp... Which I find hard to believe still looks like an Exocomp from TNG after 800 years. Don't know how there is a Cheronian cadet, considering they wiped themselves out in TOS, save for the two males that were on the Enterprise.
The characters get their dorm assignments in this episode... despite being ordered to their dorms when the ship was attacked in the previous episode.
Why does Starfleet have a separate "war college" now? I mean, Starfleet is, in part, a military organization so shouldn't military training be part of their curriculum? And they actually call it "war college"?
Are the cadets not allowed to leave campus grounds? Or is it just Caleb? Either way, seems odd. We know from DS9, Sisko and Nog were able to go New Orleans all the time.
It's interesting they are establishing the new headquarters of the Federation on Betazed.
Starfleet Academy
"Kids These Days"
Spoiler
In the post-Burn 32nd century era, Nus Braka and Anisha Mir are put on trial for killing a Starfleet officer and stealing food rations. Captain Nahla Ake had promised to help Anisha so that she could stay with her son, Caleb, but the Federation ended up sentencing her to a rehabilitation center. Caleb steals Ake's comm badge and is able to use it to run away. Skipping ahead 15 years (post season 5 of Discovery), Caleb is still looking for his mom, having racked up a substantial rap sheet and is apprehended for his crimes. Ake, having quit Starfleet for forcing her to separate Caleb from his mom, is offered the role of Starfleet Academy Chancellor and she gets to recruit Caleb to help him locate his mom to fix what she considers her biggest mistake.
They arrive at the USS Athena, the new headquarters of Starfleet Academy where we get introduced to several cadets and crew. They depart for Earth but come across an anomaly near the Badlands the crew decide would be a good learning experience for the cadets. This turns out to be a trap set by the Venari Ral who easily disable the Athena with hostile programmable matter. Nus tracked them thanks to the messages Caleb sent to his mother on a special frequency. The crew stall while the pirates attempt to take parts of their warp drive. Caleb, with the help of the other main cast cadets are able to reprogram the hostile programmable matter and free the ship. But Nus gets away in an escape pod. The Athena continues to Earth, where it lands at the traditional Academy headquarters.
They arrive at the USS Athena, the new headquarters of Starfleet Academy where we get introduced to several cadets and crew. They depart for Earth but come across an anomaly near the Badlands the crew decide would be a good learning experience for the cadets. This turns out to be a trap set by the Venari Ral who easily disable the Athena with hostile programmable matter. Nus tracked them thanks to the messages Caleb sent to his mother on a special frequency. The crew stall while the pirates attempt to take parts of their warp drive. Caleb, with the help of the other main cast cadets are able to reprogram the hostile programmable matter and free the ship. But Nus gets away in an escape pod. The Athena continues to Earth, where it lands at the traditional Academy headquarters.
I'm liking the characters for the most part. Great to see the EMH. He added aging to his program 500 years ago, explaining Robert Picardo's real life aging, but is explained in-universe that he wanted to put the organics at ease. He apparently never chose a name. Still don't understand how there is a Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid, when the Jem'Hadar were created in a lab by the Founders and as far as we know aren't capable of reproducing. All she says is that she's from a Klingon house, and a Jem'Hadar lineage. But she is a fun character. Nahla Ake is not what you'd expect for a Starfleet captain, but I really like Holly Hunter's portrayal.
For the main cadets of the series, we have Genesis Lythe, a Dar-Sha (a new alien species to us), Darem Reymi, a Khionian (another new alien species to us) who can look human, Sam, a hologram from a holographic society, and Jay-Den Kraag, a Klingon that wants to be a doctor. I really like the inclusion of a Klingon that doesn't want to be a warrior. But, it sounds like they dubbed over his voice and modulated it lower.
For some reason, cadets are not allowed to check out an EVA suit with out an instructor, but they can still get a pair of magnetic boots and just walk out of an air lock. Obviously, this was just an excuse to show off Darem's abilities as a Khionian, but it was a little convoluted.
I don't understand why they just let Nus Braka escape. With his ship destroyed and their systems back online, they could have beamed him to the brig, or at least put a tractor beam on his escape pod.
When the Athena arrives at Earth, they drop off the warp nacelles with an orbital space dock. Cool visual, but I would have thought programmable matter and whatever would have allowed them to just melt the nacelles into the saucer, like how Book's ship could reconfigure itself. Also not sure why the cadets had to gather... You know, I have no idea what planet the Athena departed from. Anyway, I don't see any reason why they couldn't have just gathered at Earth directly, or why the main building is a starship.
"Beta Test"
Spoiler
Starfleet is in negotiations with the Betazed about rejoining the Federation, but their current leadership is dead-set against it, having isolated themselves to protect themselves following the Burn and aren't convinced the Federation can protect them. So it's decided to invite them to the newly re-established Academy, hoping the kids of the future might sway them. Meanwhile, Caleb is still having a hard time adjusting to the academic life and is frustrated Starfleet has no records of the planet his mother was last reported to be on. Trying to get off campus, he meets Tarima and they instantly bond, as both feel trapped. She's one of the children of the Betazoid president. Turns out, the Betazed stellar cartography records have the planet Caleb is looking for. Their fledgling friendship is tested when Tarima doesn't understand why he wants this information so badly, and the negotiations break down. Finally telling Tarima about his mother, she convinces President Sadal to give the talks one more chance. Chancellor Ake admits to shortcomings, but offers to make Betazed the new headquarters of the Federation to guarantee their protection. He agrees, and Tarima joins the Starfleet War college, while her brother becomes one of Caleb's roommates.
Tarima is somewhat like Tam Elbrun from the episode "Tin Man". Her powers apparently are so powerful that, without the inhibiter she wears, she's a danger to those around her. Not sure how, since Tam's abilities only caused problems for himself.
I liked President Sadal is a deaf character, played by a deaf actor. Reminded me a little of Riva from "Loud as a Whisper". And it was neat that he had a device on his collar that could speak for him. But... again, being a Betazoid, he should have been able to talk to others telepathically.
Not sure why they hold the negotiations in public. I get the whole, the kids are our future angle they're going for in this episode, but the actual talks should have been in private.
Cool to see a Brikar. Unfortunately, it looks like they just pulled the CGI model directly from Star Trek Prodigy. It looked like a cartoon character rather than adapted to live action. We also see an Exocomp... Which I find hard to believe still looks like an Exocomp from TNG after 800 years. Don't know how there is a Cheronian cadet, considering they wiped themselves out in TOS, save for the two males that were on the Enterprise.
The characters get their dorm assignments in this episode... despite being ordered to their dorms when the ship was attacked in the previous episode.
Why does Starfleet have a separate "war college" now? I mean, Starfleet is, in part, a military organization so shouldn't military training be part of their curriculum? And they actually call it "war college"?
Are the cadets not allowed to leave campus grounds? Or is it just Caleb? Either way, seems odd. We know from DS9, Sisko and Nog were able to go New Orleans all the time.
It's interesting they are establishing the new headquarters of the Federation on Betazed.