Comics are Awesome III

A general discussion forum, plus hauls and silly games.
User avatar
andersonh1
Moderator
Posts: 6478
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by andersonh1 »

I do like that "Death of Superman" drawing from the EW article. Even out of continuity stories and imaginary stories from the 60s make the cut. Brainiac really can go anywhere, can't he?
User avatar
Dominic
Supreme-Class
Posts: 9331
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:55 pm
Location: Boston
Contact:

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by Dominic »


Neither of which is nanotech.......
All of which are magic uniforms.
User avatar
Sparky Prime
Supreme-Class
Posts: 5328
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:12 am

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by Sparky Prime »

Dominic wrote:All of which are magic uniforms.
That wasn't the point seeing as the question was about the amount of clothes made out of nanites in comics, but since you brought it up...

Pym particles is actually what makes something grow giant or shrink to insect size, it's not what the uniform is made of.

Unstable molecules I'd have to agree with. It doesn't really make sense that would provide an indestructible material for uniforms.

Nanotechnology with such capabilities on the other hand is theoretically possible, not magical.
User avatar
andersonh1
Moderator
Posts: 6478
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by andersonh1 »

Nanotech has become such a sci-fi cliche. I'll take good old unexplained indestructible cloth from Krypton any day. :)
User avatar
Sparky Prime
Supreme-Class
Posts: 5328
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:12 am

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by Sparky Prime »

andersonh1 wrote:Nanotech has become such a sci-fi cliche. I'll take good old unexplained indestructible cloth from Krypton any day. :)
Sci-fi cliche or not, I'd rather have that then some unexplained magical cloth personally. Nanotech clothes isn't all that common in comics all things considered.
User avatar
andersonh1
Moderator
Posts: 6478
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by andersonh1 »

On another topic entirely, I've enjoyed reading this column about the long time DC/Marvel rivalry. It's a bit long, but well-written and worth your time to read, in my opinion. http://comicsalliance.com/dc-comics-mar ... s-history/
User avatar
Dominic
Supreme-Class
Posts: 9331
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:55 pm
Location: Boston
Contact:

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by Dominic »

Never much liked pre-70s DC. It always seemed so aimless. (The part about the respective target audiences touches on a point I have made, specifically why anybody bothered to stay with comics in the Silver Age. Why bother reading if the pitch is so low?)


The writer missed one thing. The "artificial legacies" that he argues were introduced by "Crisis on Infinite Earths" were actually introduced by the JLA/JSA cross-overs (with the Golden Age characters aging and being replaced).

Marvel definitely relies more on stasis quo though. ("Avengers: Disassembled" was era-defining a decade ago. But, not a single on page event from that arc has stuck, all of it having reverted to ~1980 spec.)

And, in fairness to DC, for about 20 or so years they were more likely to pitch high. "Red Son" or "Gotham by Gaslight" are easily equal to (if not better than) anything from then-contemporary Marvel.

The problem with DC's multiverse has always been that it is under-used despite the attention DC lavishes on it. For decades, the pattern was that the main characters would travel to a world that was dominated by a single gimmick (Earths 2 and 3 being the most commonly recurring). But, DC never really did anything with the alternates. (In fact, Earth 3 was specifically limited in that Luthor was the only surviving hero.)

DC made the same mistake in '06 when the brought back the multiverse. For all of the "look what we have" at the end of "52", what of actual value was produced? DC through most of their multiverse in to a furnace during "Countdown". There were a few books that used the concept, but they were inconsequential. I have to wonder how much DC really has planned for the current 52.
User avatar
andersonh1
Moderator
Posts: 6478
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by andersonh1 »

A number of pages back, I mentioned that the structure of Convergence (main series with lots of mini-series that tied into it) looked structurally a lot like Flashpoint.

Well: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/02/14/ ... nvergence/
Originally, Flashpoint was supposed to do what Convergence is doing now, becoming a holding place, a band aid, for books during the originally planned move of DC Comics from New York to Burbank, which was then delayed until 2015. At the end of Flashpoint, the books were originally going to continue as normal without the reboot, and Multiversity was intended to be born from Final Crisis.
Dominic wrote:Never much liked pre-70s DC. It always seemed so aimless. (The part about the respective target audiences touches on a point I have made, specifically why anybody bothered to stay with comics in the Silver Age. Why bother reading if the pitch is so low?)
Silver Age DC is the era I have the hardest time enjoying. It works for some characters, not for others. I think it was a combination of the Comics Code being such a limitation, and DC aiming for the younger set, who they still believed were an audience that turned over on a regular basis. It was quick, disposable entertainment. And it sold sometimes ten times the amount that comics do today, so it was a success, whatever we think of it now.
The problem with DC's multiverse has always been that it is under-used despite the attention DC lavishes on it. For decades, the pattern was that the main characters would travel to a world that was dominated by a single gimmick (Earths 2 and 3 being the most commonly recurring). But, DC never really did anything with the alternates. (In fact, Earth 3 was specifically limited in that Luthor was the only surviving hero.)
It was a device, a way to integrate newly acquired characters into DC's universe. Or in the case of Earth 2, retroactively account for the original generation of characters. I"m not sure DC ever intended more than that, though there's certainly more that can be done with the concept.
User avatar
JediTricks
Site Admin
Posts: 3851
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:17 pm
Location: LA, CA, USA

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by JediTricks »

Batman '66 #18 - late to the party, I finally burned through other books to get here. I'm not sure how I feel about this issue, I hated the follow-through in the first story but I liked the premise and some of the gags. I was surprised by the Batgirl story however, it had an interesting look and a very silly but almost uniquely comic-booky story, and the gags with the spells was both a groaner and kinda funny too. And I hate to be like this, but the way Batgirl was drawn was pretty nice.
Image
See, that one's a camcorder, that one's a camera, that one's a phone, and they're doing "Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil", get it?
User avatar
andersonh1
Moderator
Posts: 6478
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:22 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Comics are Awesome III

Post by andersonh1 »

JediTricks wrote:Batman '66 #18 - late to the party, I finally burned through other books to get here. I'm not sure how I feel about this issue, I hated the follow-through in the first story but I liked the premise and some of the gags. I was surprised by the Batgirl story however, it had an interesting look and a very silly but almost uniquely comic-booky story, and the gags with the spells was both a groaner and kinda funny too. And I hate to be like this, but the way Batgirl was drawn was pretty nice.
I just want to see some more Julie Newmar Catwoman. :mrgreen:
Post Reply