Theatre movies,are they getting better or worse? you decide.

[Tigermegatron]

Theatre movies,are they getting better or worse? you decide

Overall I don't see any improvement. Think things have got worse not better.

Sure the new ERA CGI is beautiful and amazing to watch. but most of the time the CGI takes center stage and it causes weak plots, weak arcs and weak dialogue.

I'm really fed up with all the super hero movies. These are by far not well written movies and the dialogue spoken is far worse than the empty plots.

Those american made, american based Gozilla movies. At this point they are more than guaranteed to be garbage and terrible movies in all areas.

With CGI dominating everything in the Theatre movies. It just seems like the forumula of writting great movies with top notch dialogue no longer exist.

[138 Scourge]

How'd the edit go?

[andersonh1]

It's hard not to agree with some of this. There are still good solid movies out there, but it does seem like writers aren't as literate as they used to be, and you're more likely to find a flashy action movie with lots of visuals than you are a movie with lots of good dialogue and great performances with long scenes where the actors really sell some drama. That type of thing is still out there of course, but I think the industry feeds off itself. Writers approach a project after watching other movies rather than reading. Things feel derivative.

Again, it's not that everything is all flash and no substance. But yeah, it does feel like that sometimes.

[Shockwave]

It's hard not to agree with some of this. There are still good solid movies out there, but it does seem like writers aren't as literate as they used to be, and you're more likely to find a flashy action movie with lots of visuals than you are a movie with lots of good dialogue and great performances with long scenes where the actors really sell some drama. That type of thing is still out there of course, but I think the industry feeds off itself. Writers approach a project after watching other movies rather than reading. Things feel derivative.

Again, it's not that everything is all flash and no substance. But yeah, it does feel like that sometimes.

And I kind of feel like Transformers and Star Trek are kind of the poster children for this. Not to mention that everything now days is done by Orci and Kurtzman and those guys aren't always that great of writers. But I digress, it's like Hollywood has collectively said "Hey, remember that thing you loved way back when? Well here it is in a way that you never ever wanted to see it." As for superhero movies, it's hit and miss. Most of Marvel's are pretty good, but DC has just sucked all the charm out of their franchises. Grimdark works well for Batman but not for Superman. The problem with Man of Steel wasn't that there was too much action, it was that it was missing those charming "chemistry" moments that the Christopher Reeves versions had.

[Sparky Prime]

While I would agree the quality of writing has declined in films, I can't agree CGI is to blame for it. Bad writing is going to be bad no matter what special effects they use. Like andershonh1 mentioned, I don't think they're as literate as they used to be or do as much research as they should for a given project. I think a lot of writers have just gotten lazy and aren't turning out the level of quality that they should be.

[andersonh1]

But I digress, it's like Hollywood has collectively said "Hey, remember that thing you loved way back when? Well here it is in a way that you never ever wanted to see it." As for superhero movies, it's hit and miss. Most of Marvel's are pretty good, but DC has just sucked all the charm out of their franchises. Grimdark works well for Batman but not for Superman. The problem with Man of Steel wasn't that there was too much action, it was that it was missing those charming "chemistry" moments that the Christopher Reeves versions had.

I think they're afraid to make jokes after Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, so they're overcompensating. And they see how well the Dark Knight movies did, so they want more of the same. But as you say, different approaches work for different characters. I liked Man of Steel a lot, personally, though Superman's nobility doesn't seem to shine through as much as it does with Christopher Reeve. On the other hand, Reeve's Clark Kent, while accurate to some of the comics, is a cartoon figure who it's hard to imagine existing in real life, and more down to earth characters was something the Man of Steel writers were trying to achieve. It's two different approaches.

I just wish they hadn't insisted on having Superman kill Zod. That's my biggest complaint with that movie.

I think scriptwriters feed off of other media, so they absorb television and movie plots and ideas and characters, and it makes for a very narrow well from which to draw ideas and form characters and plots.