Transformers 4 to have all new characters?

[Tigermegatron]

Target & Walmart computer ordering sheets info did provide the corect names,which were different from the leaked hasbro list.

Do you have a link to actually support that claim? Because this is pretty much all TFW2005 had to say about the Target listing:

"we can conclude that the previously leaked Hasbro listing is accurate (not that we had any doubt)"

It doesn't provide any names that the Hasbro listing didn't. And I'm not seeing any other toy listings reported at all. Those two links I've posted are it.

Most got the confirmation of correct names from Target & Walmart. Most did not need a further confirmation from a guy who claimed to get into the Hasbro UK TF4 show rooms.

Which is why TFW2005 had an article on their front news page about the information he'd provided, including pointing out that we "now" have confirmation of the name Crosshairs? Why would they report it that way if there had already been confirmation of it before? The toy listing had him listed under a code name, that wasn't confirmation.

Weeks/Months ago,Target & Walmarts store computers order sheets did reveal the name Crosshairs for a TF4 toy,This was all the confirmation I needed. I didn't need further confirmation from a fan who claims he got into the 2014 Hasbro TF UK show room,but gave no proof he got in.

I am not debatting if the guy got into the low clearance 2014 UK toyfair TF non-Hasbro show rooms. As this wasn't the info I was seeking.

[Sparky Prime]

Weeks/Months ago,Target & Walmarts store computers order sheets did reveal the name Crosshairs for a TF4 toy,This was all the confirmation I needed. I didn't need further confirmation from a fan who claims he got into the 2014 Hasbro TF UK show room,but gave no proof he got in.

Again, where was this reported? I posted the only two links I could find on TFW2005 from months ago about TF4 toy lists from Hasbro and Target. Those lists didn't confirm names at all. I mean really, there are still plenty of characters we do not know the names of because those lists used code names. So where is your proof to back up the claim? Because again, TFW would not have reported his information the way they did had any names already been confirmed from those lists.

I am not debatting if the guy got into the low clearance 2014 UK toyfair TF non-Hasbro show rooms. As this wasn't the info I was seeking.

Clearly that wasn't what you were seeking, you want pictures and stuff. But instead of accepting he couldn't go into detail because of a nondisclosure agreement, you have been debating if he got in at all.

[Tigermegatron]

Again, where was this reported? I posted the only two links I could find on TFW2005 from months ago about TF4 toy lists from Hasbro and Target. Those lists didn't confirm names at all. I mean really, there are still plenty of characters we do not know the names of because those lists used code names. So where is your proof to back up the claim? Because again, TFW would not have reported his information the way they did had any names already been confirmed from those lists.

I found the info on the Tformers & Seibertron.com news sites. it was posted on January 5,2014. a few hours later both sites got a email from Hasbro stating they needed to remove the info because it revealed info that Hasbro wasn't willing to share at that time. The list were taken from walmart & target store computers via top level department managers. on the target & walmart list were as follows: Hound,Cyclonus,Superion,Menasor,Galvatron,Crosshairs,pointblank,needlenose,bomb blast, chain claw,snarler,submarauder,icepick,
Dai Atlas,Fortress Maximus,Trypticon,Rodimus Prime,Ultra Magnus,Road buster,arcee,Elita-1,Magnaboss,Computron & the list goes on.

Last night,a member of the Allspark forums claimed to look through the Seibertron.com news site pages on page 26 via a back door link he found that was partially deleted but still worked somehow & he said he saw the info. So if your willing to comb through all the previous seibertron.com news site pages,you might find it.

needless to say it was a glorious list to read,i'm sorry you missed it. sometimes with info like this you need to have ur "A" game on & be in the right spot at the right time. If your willing to do the homework,invest the hours of time combing through all the previous seibetron.com news site pages,i'm confident you will find it.

[Sparky Prime]

I found the info on the Tformers & Seibertron.com news sites. it was posted on January 5,2014. a few hours later both sites got a email from Hasbro stating they needed to remove the info because it revealed info that Hasbro wasn't willing to share at that time. The list were taken from walmart & target store computers via top level department managers. on the target & walmart list were as follows: Hound,Cyclonus,Superion,Menasor,Galvatron,Crosshairs,pointblank,needlenose,bomb blast, chain claw,snarler,submarauder,icepick,
Dai Atlas,Fortress Maximus,Trypticon,Rodimus Prime,Ultra Magnus,Road buster,arcee,Elita-1,Magnaboss,Computron & the list goes on.

So you have no link? Where did you get this list from then? It reads like a list of Transformers trademarks, not a list of toys that'll be in Age of Extinction.

If your willing to do the homework,invest the hours of time combing through all the previous seibetron.com news site pages,i'm confident you will find it.

If such a list was posted on January 5th like you claim, that would take minutes to find, not hours.
And I've done the homework already, having supported what I've been saying with the news on TFW2005. "A" game or not, there would be evidence of such news in the fandom if what you're saying had been reported. I posted the links I found to such lists from TFW2005 already and they never reported anything like you're claiming. You say there was a post about it on Allspark last night? Where is that? If you looked any of this up, support it, post a link if it exists to backup your own claims for a change.

Edit: Just as proof of concept, I'll be nice and do your homework for you... again. Since you've been dodging it and from past experience, I know you wont. I did find the Wal-Mart listing although it was actually posted January 7th (only about 8 pages back and took less than 10 minutes to find btw), but as you can see for yourself, it's by far not a corrected or even a complete listing compared to the Hasbro list. It doesn't list a majority of the names you mentioned above. So still have no idea where you even got that list of characters from. Nor does it have any indication that Hasbro asked them to take it down (looking at their discussion about it, Wal-Mart took them off their own website but no one asked Seibertron to remove anything). I also found the Target listing but it is exactly the same information as the article I already linked to from TFW2005. Neither gives us any new information that the Hasbro list didn't. And again, since that list used code names it doesn't serve as confirmation for character names.