Metroplex's earth Vehicle mode never made any sense.

The originals... ok, not exactly, but the original named "The TransFormers" anyway. Take THAT, Diaclone!
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And, Metroplex never shows up again in the US cartoon.
All three episodes of it! Which all focused on introducing the much bigger replacement toy, Fortress Maximus.
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I dunno, maybe it's more the fault of the scene's direction, but... Rodimus didn't seem THAT choked up, and Metroplex was like, "I understand, Rodimus" without a moment's hesitation. O well, I guess I always disliked death as a common plot device!

Speaking of, you've unintentionally hit the nail on the head there. "Exceptional violence" without context or discourse is one of my biggest turnoffs in fiction; in fact it's one of the reasons I've never been into Warhammer and its ilk. I find Metroplex's potential as a city in which smaller TFs live infinitely more interesting than his potential as a big smashy smasher.

That said, I will always support fanfic, especially written by our resident fanfic hater, and implore you to elaborate on that outline. And hey, I do have fond memories of that scene in the G1 comic where Metroplex wakes up for the first time(?) and all the dead Autobots that were strung up on his walls by the Quintessons(?) are now dangling from his leg. Evocative stuff.


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At least a few of those "dead" Autobots came back. I am 90% sure that Blaster, and maybe a couple of others, came back before "Time Wars". After "Time Wars", it was anybody's guess.

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Rolling is a far more efficient means of getting around than walking or flying. And moving in of itself is hugely wasteful of resources for a robot the size of Metroplex, so perhaps it's wise to have him sit around not doing anything most of the time, and be designed to be able to roll whenever possible, and again only when needed of course. Energon after all is a precious resource for the Cybertronians, and the wisdom of its management is key to the Autobots' plans for victory in their war with the Decepticons.
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Gomess wrote: Hey hold up, Rodimus didn't *kill* Metroplex in RoOP. Never mind the fact that he appears alive and well throughout Headmasters, but... Seriously, that's how you interpreted that scene? Damn. He just turns the guy off for a bit, he doesn't extinguish his laser core or whatever! Rewatch it!
Rodimus just turned metroplex off for a bit. Metroplex was alive & working in the Rebirth part one intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtEl6EXutcA

When Hasbro canceled the Transformers G-1 USA season 4,Their was a whole bunch of un-used animation that Takara took & used for the 1987 Japanese Headmasters cartoon series. This un-used USA TF season 4 animation had Metroplex in it. So Had hasbro not canceled TF G-1 season 4,Metroplex would of made a appearance in season 4.
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Tigermegatron wrote:When Hasbro canceled the Transformers G-1 USA season 4,Their was a whole bunch of un-used animation that Takara took & used for the 1987 Japanese Headmasters cartoon series. This un-used USA TF season 4 animation had Metroplex in it. So Had hasbro not canceled TF G-1 season 4,Metroplex would of made a appearance in season 4.
Nnnnnope. Headmasters was all original footage.
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Onslaught Six wrote:
Tigermegatron wrote:When Hasbro canceled the Transformers G-1 USA season 4,Their was a whole bunch of un-used animation that Takara took & used for the 1987 Japanese Headmasters cartoon series. This un-used USA TF season 4 animation had Metroplex in it. So Had hasbro not canceled TF G-1 season 4,Metroplex would of made a appearance in season 4.
Nnnnnope. Headmasters was all original footage.
06,You are wrong,Official sources from Takara have confirmed that The Japanese Headmasters series used un-used footage from TF G-1 Season 4 & Scramble city.

TF G-1 Season 4 was originally intended to be a entire season worth of episodes,not just 3 episodes. All the un-used footage got used by Takara for the Japanese Headmasters earlier episodes.

scramble city was originally meant to be more than one episode. all the un-used footage was used in the Japanese Headmasters cartoon series. This is why viewers see so many 1984 bigger autobots car/bots who died in the 1986 movie & never seen in season 3 alive running around in the back ground in the earlier Japanese Headmasters episodes. This is also why the earlier Japanese Headmasters episodes feature so many scramble city combiners fighting scenes.

If you look closely,You'll notice that the later episodes of the Japanese Headmasters series looks a bit dfifferent than some of the animated footage used in the ealier episodes of the Japanese Headmasters cartoon series.
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And an interview on the special features of the Rhino release of G1 with Season 4 writer David Wise proves you wrong. He stated that it was originally supposed to be a 5 part episode that got shrunk down to three and so he had to write the same story to fit in less time. So Season 4 was never produced/written or animated beyond the three part episode. Also, I've seen all of Headmasters Japanese (the recent Shout! Factory release) and the animation is consistent throughout. Actually, one of the things I did notice and like was that the animation did seem to be consistent to G1 season 3, but that doesn't mean it wasn't all original.
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Tigermegatron wrote:Official sources from Takara
Bro that's a great impression of me aged 17.

Please post a link to a transcript of this "official source from Takara" because I'm not sure you quite get how animation works. Especially the inherent differences between American and Japanese animation production; it's *immensely* unlikely that an American studio "did some animation" and then "handed it over" to a Japanese studio when their project was axed.
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scramble city was originally meant to be more than one episode. all the un-used footage was used in the Japanese Headmasters cartoon series. This is why viewers see so many 1984 bigger autobots car/bots who died in the 1986 movie & never seen in season 3 alive running around in the back ground in the earlier Japanese Headmasters episodes. This is also why the earlier Japanese Headmasters episodes feature so many scramble city combiners fighting scenes.
Yeah, it can't possibly be that none of the Japanese writers had seen the movie, and thus had no idea who died in it beyond what they were told from Season 3 episodes.

(Protip: That is exactly what happened. Japan didn't get the movie until 1989.)

Also, the combiners keep showing up the entire way through Headmasters. Bruticus, Devastator, Menasor and co are hanging out with the other Decepticons right up until the last episode. Here, look:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Final_Showdo ... characters
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