The Seeker comparison thread

[138 Scourge]

Hey, we've had one Dinobot in five years. I dunno what Seeker fans are upset about.

[Shockwave]

Hey, we've had one Dinobot in five years. I dunno what Seeker fans are upset about.

...buuuuuuut when Hasbro already has an established pattern of releasing certain characters it's equally ridiculous to break from that.

What established pattern would that be? The one where it took them over five years to release a goddamn Jazz, or the one that's got it so they still haven't made all the Triple Changers? (Who would arguably be a lot more interesting to get than the ferkin' Seekers)

Dear Princess Celestia: I've learned something today... Hasbro has managed to piss off just about everybody with the Classics/Universe/Generations line.

Yeah... Seeker fans are pissed because it took five damn years to get all the jets, Jazz fans are pissed for the same reason and Dinobot and triple changer fans are pissed for not getting more toys at all. Everyone nerdrage against Hasbro for not giving us more toys faster!! CURSE YOU HASBRO!!!

[Onslaught Six]

...buuuuuuut when Hasbro already has an established pattern of releasing certain characters it's equally ridiculous to break from that.

What established pattern would that be? The one where it took them over five years to release a goddamn Jazz, or the one that's got it so they still haven't made all the Triple Changers? (Who would arguably be a lot more interesting to get than the ferkin' Seekers)

Compare the situation to Armada or Cybertron, though, where if there was a dude named Starscream, guys named Thundercracker and Skywarp were sure to be close behind. Then you get into things like the PVCs, Robot Heroes, Titaniums--even the movie toyline you can extrapolate this from.

I think a LOT of this could have been avoided if Hasbro had simply released Thundercracker in place of Ramjet to begin with. Then it could have fallen on Botcon or Takara's hands to produce the Coneheads, which Hasbro could later recoup costs on by releasing them at retail a few years later.

Also, if they had simply said at the beginning, "Hey, guys, chill out, Thundercracker is planned for 2011," then I think many of us would have shut up and been patient.

[Dominic]

Wow are you bitter.

I am sweet as a damned apple pie dammit.

The part that makes you look crazy though, is the way you take points off for international releases and exclusives that would have allowed those fans who *really* wanted all six to get them early, all because their paint apps didn't match up perfectly.

I should not have to buy imports or exclusives for this sort of thing. Yeah, I like imports, but I should not have to buy them to get a complete set of damned planes.

which does nothing for anyone's image after they're already bought the same damn toy jet six times in a row.

Uh, they have different wings and heads. They are different damn toys.

think what I *really* love about the whole Seeker situation though, is the knowledge that if Hasbro had gone and done all six Seekers back in Classics, then fans would have inevitably bitched and moaned about them releasing too many repaints instead of new molds. God we are never happy.

Maybe I would not yell if you stopped eating cookies in the damn bed!

Joking aside, it is not recolours that tend to annoy myself and most fans, it is endless same character recolours. There are some moulds that I will buy over and over and over and over and over again quite happily.

Hey, we've had one Dinobot in five years. I dunno what Seeker fans are upset about.

The Dinobots would require unique and character-specific tooling. So, I can see why Hasbro avoids them. The damned seekers would share most of their tooling, and have plenty of recolour potential.

Also, if they had simply said at the beginning, "Hey, guys, chill out, Thundercracker is planned for 2011," then I think many of us would have shut up and been patient.

Why wait the 4 damned years?


Dom
-wonders how much "missing Thundercracker" contributed to the customizing binge of '08...

[Onslaught Six]

You're right, releasing Thundy in Universe 2.0 would have made far more sense, it was only because the Club couldn't keep their dick in their pants that Thundergate happened. (Of course, Hasbro approved, but in '07 who knows what Hasbro had planned? They were smack in the middle of the first Movie toyline and dealing with more important things like distribution. Remember The Drought?)

[Dominic]

I am not going to blame the club for exploiting an opportunity that Hasbro handed to them.

[Shockwave]

I am not going to blame the club for exploiting an opportunity that Hasbro handed to them.

Indeed. Instead I would blame Hasbro for handing it to them.