Comics are awesome.

[Onslaught Six]

I think it'll be at least slightly better than COIE because with COIE, some characters actually took 'years' to be rebooted afterwards.

[Sparky Prime]

Both Raymond and Rusch have been significantly de-aged. And, as Scourge pointed out, it looks like they are just starting their career as Firestorm. "Blackest Night" assumed they were undergrads, possibly grad student aged in the case of Raymond.

De-aging the characters only a couple of years isn't enough in my book. All that means is the characters are represented as being slightly younger than they had been. And this is the beginning of Jason and Ronnie's career in working together. I really don't see any reason to assume they've taken Blackest Night or Brightest Day out of context yet.

CoIE had plenty of these headaches left over. I imagine. I would expect a year or so of confused/contrary writing and editing.

Well that I can agree with. With all of the big changes being made to some characters and relatively little/no change to others, there is bound to be some conflict.

[138 Scourge]

Man oh man. Got a free copy of that new DCU thing at the comics store today, and I'm completely at a loss as to how the overall universe is supposed to work. So some of the books are set at the beginning of the new DCU, some of 'em are modern-day? Like, Justice League Batman is five years ago, but JLI and the Batman book with Damien is in the present day? And...is Action Comics even before the Justice League stuff? Because it looks like Superman's already got his dumbass armor in Justice League...

Y'know what? I'll settle for reading Action Comics and mmmmaaayyyybe Swamp Thing. Swamp Thing because I like the character and Scott Snyder's proven himself as a helluva writer.

Anyway, screw all that, I got me some comics:

Daredevil #1: Mark Waid writing a redheaded guy that goes around dressed in a full-body red suit? Well, it seems to have worked before. I didn't really keep up with the Shadowland stuff where DD was possessed and took over the Hand and did some bad shit, so I dunno how that worked. I do know that Daredevil's the hero that everybody likes to dump on. He's got to have had the crappiest life of any of the original Marvel guys. Waid's pitch takes that bad life experience and the character's name and makes his pitch: In order for Matt to function these days, he lives fully in the moment. He'll jump off a skyscraper in a heartbeat not because he has a plan to survive it, but because he's been through worse, and knows he'll figure out a way to live through it. Yeah, I like the sound of that. This book starts off strong with some fun action involving the Spot being a serious threat, moves into some legal drama, has fun with the fact that Murdock was outed as DD awhile back, and has some great panels where we "see" the world through DD's "eyes". A lot of time's spent on Daredevil's powers in this issue, actually, between the main story and the bonus story in the back of the book. I am all for this, because the super-senses have got to be one of the most interesting power sets in the super-hero vocabulary, especially when the guy using 'em doesn't have sight, and exists in a purely visual medium. Also, I really enjoy Waid's take on DD's identity being publicly known: the secret's been out for awhile, people have a hard time believing a blind guy could be Daredevil, and Matt seems to get by okay by just denying he's Daredevil at every opportunity. Even when everybody knows it. Anyway. One issue in, and so far, I love it.

Also got Transformers #22, which is just bad ass. Well done, Roberts.

And Herc #5, which I haven't read yet. But I'm pretty confident that it's gonna be good times.

[138 Scourge]

Y'know, I liked the Avengers Academy book okay before, but I think I'm sold on it now:

Prowl! Look at who is on this team now!

Sooo....guess the Pack did grow up in the regular Marvel universe.

[Onslaught Six]

I do know that Daredevil's the hero that everybody likes to dump on. He's got to have had the crappiest life of any of the original Marvel guys.

Reminds me of that page where Spider-Man is all, "Man, I am so glad I'm not you. Your life really sucks."

[Sparky Prime]

Sooo....guess the Pack did grow up in the regular Marvel universe.

Yeah, Alex has actually recently made an appearance as well. Seems he's a member of the Future Foundation.

[138 Scourge]

Yeah, I've been following FF, and love that Alex is a member even if he doesn't get that much to do. But over there he doesn't seem like he's grown as much as Julie has in that picture.

Dang, Marvel, where's Jack and Katie at?

[Dominic]

De-aging the characters only a couple of years isn't enough in my book. All that means is the characters are represented as being slightly younger than they had been. And this is the beginning of Jason and Ronnie's career in working together. I really don't see any reason to assume they've taken Blackest Night or Brightest Day out of context yet.

De-aging them from college, (arguably grad level in Rarmond's case), to HS is significant. And, it rules out *Professor* Stein being a factor.

Most of the confusion could be avoided with more decisive writing and editing. (For example, post CoIE, they just had to keep "Infinity Incorporated", even though the underlying logic for the characters was undone by CoIE. This led to several of years of dithering that ended with problematic characters that nobody really cared about in the first place being shuffled off as they should have been to being with.)

Yeah, Alex has actually recently made an appearance as well. Seems he's a member of the Future Foundation.

You realize that this means he is going to die when the Human Torch comes back, right?


Dom
-its happening. Oh yeah. He is gonna die.

[Sparky Prime]

De-aging them from college, (arguably grad level in Rarmond's case), to HS is significant.

With how ambiguous the passage of time is in comics to begin with, I don't see de-aging them by only a couple of years as significant at all. Whether it's high school or college, they're still students who happen to also be a super hero.

And, it rules out *Professor* Stein being a factor.

I wouldn't say that would be necessarily true. But he died in Brightest Day so he was ruled out anyway...

You realize that this means he is going to die when the Human Torch comes back, right?

It's Spider-Man that took Torch's position on the team.

[Dominic]

Yeah, but Alex Power took the "blond adult male" spot.

I wouldn't say that would be necessarily true. But he died in Brightest Day so he was ruled out anyway...

What I am saying is that it does not make sense for HS kids to know a professor.


Dom
-retcons change the logic of origins.