Anybody give a crap about the movie line right now?

[Shockwave]

Indeed, it couldn't even stand on it's own most of the time. I actually got HA Barricade completely because of O6's review.

[Mako Crab]

I'm just in love with his car mode. I love that mustang all painted up like a cop car. Very swank.

[andersonh1]

I'm just in love with his car mode. I love that mustang all painted up like a cop car. Very swank.

That's what convinced me to buy the figure. I was pretty much going to skip the first movie line entirely, but the Mustang was just too good to miss.

[JediTricks]

So, what's the thinking on the movie line being merged with Generations to create "Reveal the Shield"? That's what seems to be happening now. I suspect Dom's head is going to explode when he sees the packaging bios merge those universes.

Days, judging by its current performance at market.

That sort of optimism is unlike you JT....

Tell me I'm wrong though. That line is choking the toy aisles with its pegwarming dead right now, and has so little to do with the new show that I can't see a connection between the show's ratings and the toy's sales (even if both were to do poorly).

A friend of mine talked to a Hasbro rep at BotCon, and the rep said that *Habro* was not exactly proud of the movie.

It figures, they won't say anything bad about the TF movie but the GI Joe movie that at least some fans liked is getting crapped on.

Sorry to do this "month later" response thing, I've had a bad last month.

My thing about Barricade is that I already have a Barricade toy. It's pretty awesome. Then along comes a new version- exact same toy except this time he had the 911 decal on the side. But I wasn't about to drop another $10 on the exact same toy over one decal. So when I see HA Barricade, and it looks, more or less, like the exact same toy- just bigger- AND it's missing the 911 decal again, AND it's $40, I feel less motivated to buy it. I should have mentioned that I've never bothered transforming my Barricade. I don't like his robot mode, but I love his vehicle mode. So any added details or articulation to his robot mode don't interest me in the least.

The HA is actually quite a bit better, depending on what you're looking for. The robot mode on the HA is much less crappy than the deluxe version, it may just be that you don't like the character because of that awful deluxe bot mode.

[Dominic]

So, what's the thinking on the movie line being merged with Generations to create "Reveal the Shield"? That's what seems to be happening now. I suspect Dom's head is going to explode when he sees the packaging bios merge those universes.

Is the context being merged though? Jazz does not look to be connected to the movie in any way.

Sorry to do this "month later" response thing, I've had a bad last month.

Been hectic for me as well.

[Onslaught Six]

His altmode is actually closer to the Pontiac Solstice than it is a Porche, but hey.

[JediTricks]

Is the context being merged though? Jazz does not look to be connected to the movie in any way.

All the Reveal the Shield bios I've seen so far, 2 toys from the movie line and 2 from a Generations-style situation, are self-contained entries that are basically generic enough to be taken any way you want, but the fact that the line is merging the products means this is basically TF:Universe all over again.

Been hectic for me as well.

Sorry to hear it.

[Dominic]

i am planning to write about this next week. (Things are too busy this week.)


But, for the most part, I am trying to use the figures and packaging together to figure out where a toy goes. I am assuming Jazz is in some kind of Neo-G1 context, if only because movie Jazz is pretty well dead.

[BWprowl]

Or you could just treat him as G1 Jazz, since it's blindingly obvious that that's who it's supposed to be.

Seriously, they could sell that toy in a Beast Wars box with the name labeled 'The Fallen', and I'd think of him as G1 Jazz as soon as I had him in hand. There's no reason to let packaging and labels screw with you on this one.

[Dominic]

This is getting back to the author intent debate we have in the comics thread.

By your logic Prowl, "Cybertron" Armourhide is retro-actively G1 Pipes.

I do agree that in this case, it is safe to assume that RtS Jazz is more or less (a) G1-ish Jazz. But, if they sold that toy as "Beast Wars Fallen", and the name change was not a result of catastrophic copy-right loss, then I would grit my teeth and call it the Fallen.


Dom
-admits to being lazy about Octankor's.